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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What if we fail?

186 replies

Terfulike · 03/06/2018 15:40

I find myself worrying about where we will be 2, 5, 10, 20 years from now if we fail to stop the tide that, just now, with the GRA reforms, threatens to redefine the meaning of the word woman, erase lesbians and damage a generation of children.

I'm not saying we should give up: anything but. In fact, I think it might be an important motivating factor to consider what else might happen if our MPs continue to enshrine lies into laws.

What will come next?

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pombear · 04/06/2018 20:49

Oh WAKAME, you've done it again. You've given your game away.

I would never say "I'm a 'girl'" on my birth certificate. I don't know any women who would use that wording. Girl?

Most, and I, would say I'm female (as per your marker, if you have a GRC, you will also have that as a legal definition, though as we know it's a legal definitinon, not a biological one. You weren't born female - otherwise, you wouldn't be defined as 'trans').

How many women really would say 'I'm a 'girl' on my birth certificate'?

Any anyone stating 'puberty suppression' as a normal protocol gets my red flags flying.

So many TRAs still don't get how many of us here were trans 'allies' until this dogma, denial of reality, childhood rights and suppression of risk analysis for new medical treatments reared its head and started shouting at us - us, who were open, willing to support those who felt 'different'.

When the wolves took off their sheep's clothing, many of us are saying 'shit, we were duped'. And this abusive 'you've failed already, we're already in your spaces' sets off even more red flags - to be honest, all I can see is a swathe of red material.

But thank you, as I still need posts like yours to remind me of the swathes of red you and other 'trans-rights activists' are stitching together in the sky.

Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 20:52

Lets assume thats true, rather than it being about validation.

I think you answer your own question. It isn't true. It is all about validation in the vast majority of cases. And not being laughed/stared at by men probably. But as you say it's ultimately self defeating.

Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 20:53

would never say "I'm a 'girl'" on my birth certificate. I don't know any women who would use that wording. Girl?

Yes I thought exactly the same.

Opheliah · 04/06/2018 21:02

The comment "I have 'girl' on my birth certificate" made me cringe and wince.

The word is female.

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 04/06/2018 21:03

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Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 21:04

When the wolves took off their sheep's clothing, many of us are saying 'shit, we were duped'. And this abusive 'you've failed already, we're already in your spaces' sets off even more red flags - to be honest, all I can see is a swathe of red material.

Me too. So much.

Baroquehavoc · 04/06/2018 21:06

The TRAs are shooting themselves in the foot. The funding for NHS treatment will dry up.

Only a very small percentage of transpeople want and have any sort of surgery and I've been told that any drugs they take are very cheap. For the vast majority of trans NHS funding is if little importance.

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 21:06

Can't clicky wah

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 21:06

The finding won't dry up

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 21:07

Funding Hmm

Baroquehavoc · 04/06/2018 21:09

I agree, Pratchet. If anything it wouldn't surprise me if more cosmetic surgeries will become available to them.

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 04/06/2018 21:10

Transracialism already legal in one US state.nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-delaware-students-can-now-choose-their-own-race-this-should-end-well

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 21:11

You can already get trans cosmetic electrolysis on the NHS.

Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 21:17

Yes. But not for PCOS in most areas, right?

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 21:19

The double standards are shameless

ShotsFired · 04/06/2018 21:28

If an egg is only 0.6% rotten do you still eat it or has the whole thing been changed?

J4nice · 05/06/2018 13:35

@Italiangreyhound the ignorance of this man amazes me

J4nice · 05/06/2018 13:36

The nhs will never pull out funding, they have employed new surgeons to replace the old ones and continue to do so

But your reasoning is laughable at best

Pratchet · 05/06/2018 13:40

It's true - funding went up by 50pc in the last financial year. Honestly, all for something that has never been proved to exist.

GaspingShark · 05/06/2018 17:18

What if we fail?

We fail. But screw your courage to the sticking-place and we'll not fail.

Italiangreyhound · 06/06/2018 02:54

@J4nice
'Italiangreyhound the ignorance of this man amazes me'

which man?

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TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/06/2018 03:28

More sexism and misogyny no doubt. Maybe with added appeals to female socialisation and some emotional blackmail and twisting of truths?

ShotsFired · 06/06/2018 09:17

And now you've blown your under-bridge-dwelling cover J4nice.

You were doing so well too, bless.

Maybe next time, eh champ?

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