Where do we draw the trans line....?

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Really interesting reading all the Daily Mail comments on latest Man Friday article.... most seemed quite happy with the idea of transsexuals using women's facilities, but no transwomen with dangly bits.

This used to be my position - and may still be so... but I am really concerned the more I read about certain transsexuals (the previously macho late-transitioning type).... those with rampant AGP which leads them to fetishise women's bodies and being in women's spaces in a very mansplainy way.... I feel very squeamish about sharing space with them.... and was deeply shocked by learning that some comb bins for used tampons and pads and wear them to "feel more like a woman" and then celebrate and share this online with other fetishists.....

My suspicion is that for the sake of what one might see as the transsexuals we have long shared space with, out of courtesy and respect, that yes it is okay for them to be in some women's spaces .... But my concern is that with TRAs being so active and the transgender movement steamrollering ahead, that more of the aggressive AGP type are going to feel liberated to come out of the closet and into our spaces....and the balance will shift

I know this is just academic - given that focussing on No Self-Id is our priority - but would be very interested in hearing what other's think as I try to clarify my own position

Only people who try to over step my boundaries - and it doesn't matter if it's done with saccharine cutesie words. I've seen it all.

Crikey!

Is there any reported case of transwomen being beat up in the mens room for that reason alone?

No.
There was a short lived project of transgender identified males going into the men's room and taking selfies and posting them with the caption "do I look like I belong here".

It was embarrassing for them because the men mostly ignored them. Though a few men did object to being photographed while they were pissing.

@bewilderness "Prostate location is significant in these cases."

It really isn't.

fms, no one here wants to hear about you sticking used feminine hygiene products up your bum. Promise.

PermissiontoSpeakSir I want to apologise, unreservedly for any hurt I caused, for having pissed you off!

I had quite forgotten how the mood and tone of the boards change later at night and over the weekend and, in that light, what I considered to be a throwaway comment, obvilsuly wasn't read that way. My apologies.

I'm logging off now... going back to my usual 6am - 4 ish routine.

Is the AGP/period fetish thing so very rare? I don't think it is that rare. If you want to risk losing your breakfast, go to sissykiss dot com. Basically, an entire site for AGPs. That is where I first came across the tampon up the rectum stuff. Had not realised that they had progressed to raiding bins for used hygiene products (ie 'the next level') until recently, but does not surprise me either. Effectively, this is all very silence of the lambs stuff.

Apologies accepted samphire I appreciate that. I might seem ott but I have a zero tolerance policy for people telling others that their feelings or boundaries are wrong.

@bewilderness

I'm "bewildered" that you think a tampon can reach the prostate. Learn some male anatomy.

Prey tale.

^Tell

Laughing my head off at Bewildernesses response to fms there.

Lets not forget prisons.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

Have picked this wikipedia picture, as it is clearest.
Perhaps you may care to study where your prostate is fms?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia#/media/File:Benign_Prostatic_Hyperplasia_nci-vol-7137-300.jpg

Because yes, sticking fingers, dicks, tampons up the rectum is about the prostate. You may desist with the gaslighting now fms.

Pray, do not tell.

No to all from me. Third space please. We have an inch, they took a mile, so now I want the inch back.

My inch does not refer to dick diagram above

I've always been a woman who will always have a problem with biological males in women only spaces. We have sex based protections for a very good reason and imho, these spaces aren't employed enough.

I don't care how many surgeries or hormones a male takes. He will always be male and will never spend a single second being female.

@bewilderness

I once did a video on a TIM who had SRS who thought his new 'front wound' was useless, infected, a bother, painful and said he preferred anything in his ass.

The finger can reach, so can a tampon.

Sorry to be graphic but there it is.

fmsfms is a woman with a DH and DSs

Now we've got the AGP piggybacking onto the dysphoric, I'm afraid you're right.

Yep.

There is literally nothing a man can do to his body that makes him anything other than a man. Women are not men with body modifications. We're also not a personality type that certain men also have.

Agree with this.

was always a mistake to introduce this pretence of men becoming women and we should have learned lessons that ratifying a lie is disastrous. We should never have lied to these people in the first place. You can't sustain this lie and it is becoming explosive trying to.

And yes, absolutely.

What Lang and Permission said plus I want that mile back now Prachet. That's what happens when my good nature, and that of other women, is taken advantage of by entitled men.

Picassospaintbrush Sun 03-Jun-18 01:58:26 fmsfms is a woman with a DH and DSs
Thanks Ppb, I thought we all knew that but perhaps not.