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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

No True Transwoman - transadvocates question whether TW is 'genuine' after said TW sexually harasses women in homeless shelter

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CaitlynsCat · 02/06/2018 08:36

abc30.com/3514544/

'It says the shelter requires them to shower in groups, and it opened its doors to a person who identified themself as a transgender woman who made lewd and sexually inappropriate comments, and leered at them while they were naked.

"This is the biggest fear they bring up, that you're going to have people who may not even be transgender in bathrooms and settings where people are naked and their privacy rights are being violated," said Peter Kapetan, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the women.

Poverello House administrators tell Action News federal law says they have to treat a person identifying as a woman as a woman -- and there's no way to test whether it's true.'

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The women say they repeatedly complained to staff members, but were told if they didn't respect the person's decision to identify as a woman, and if they refused to take showers at the same time, they'd get kicked out of the shelter.
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'Karen Adell Scot, a local transgender advocate, even offered to train Naomi's House employees on how to recognize people just pretending to identify as the opposite gender.'

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TERFragetteCity · 03/06/2018 16:43

Picasso most people don't care about being in a toilet with a trans woman. And pre op or non op or post op you don't know what is there and there's no way of knowing. That was what I said.

I think that they do care. They are just scared to say anything because - you know - men can get violent. Pre-op or post-op...still men. Still a potential threat.

Picassospaintbrush · 03/06/2018 16:44

Showers and changing rooms, one's she fought for so she and other women could be in the Fire Service. You trivialised it to a toilet.

TERFragetteCity · 03/06/2018 16:45

Like this lovely lady...

No True Transwoman - transadvocates question whether TW is 'genuine' after said TW sexually harasses women in homeless shelter
Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:45

You are not rational and your argument is self contradictory.

A transwoman is of the sex that produces motile gametes and according to you is therefore male.

SupermatchGame · 03/06/2018 16:46

Time for my favourite picture!

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.

No True Transwoman - transadvocates question whether TW is 'genuine' after said TW sexually harasses women in homeless shelter
TERFragetteCity · 03/06/2018 16:47

Is that another threat? Are we supposed to be scared?

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2018 16:47

What is actually meant by that?Hmm

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2018 16:49

They withdrew it because the Man Friday chaps made fools of their guidance. Keep up.

Exactly. Splendid chaps that they are.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/06/2018 16:49

I like dogs. Dogs don't care about "gender", on account of being dogs. Maybe spending more time around them would help Supermatch regain contact with reality?

TERFragetteCity · 03/06/2018 16:50

What is actually meant by that?

I suspect he means that we are all dogs?

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2018 16:51

SMG always flounces when they know they have said something that people can refute. Only to pop up somewhere else and say the same thing.

Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:51

most people don't care about being in a toilet with a trans woman

Made up 'fact'

Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:52

He's an idiot and thinks we are bigger idiots. Bye SMG. Don't blame you for legging it. It's not looking pretty for you.

SupermatchGame · 03/06/2018 16:53

A transwoman is of the sex that produces motile gametes and according to you is therefore male.

Why did I have to look at the board again. Switch it off. Switch it off.

Yes a trans woman is originally of the natal male sex. There are genetic, biological and social factors that have lead such a person to reassign through medical treatment and legal process. They can then become female. Or female enough for most people - you know away from this internet bubble - to consider them female. Or a woman.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/06/2018 16:53

If most people don't care then they're perfectly safe in the men's toilets, right? Since men are people?

Picassospaintbrush · 03/06/2018 16:53

Apparently the large hounds represent the smaller female sex, and this implies the much smaller fox is representing physically larger males.

Doesn't work for me. Especially when the hounds are all controlled by the ruling classes on the fucking enormous horses.

The fox, to me, represents the woman in the showers in prison.

Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:54

You can't change sex. It is impossible.

No one becomes legally the opposite sex. They acquire the right to be treated under the law as their chosen 'gender'. The law does not say one has changed sex or can change sex.

Picassospaintbrush · 03/06/2018 16:55

The Times, the Daily Mail? Are they all an irrelevant tiny bubble?

SupermatchGame · 03/06/2018 16:55

No hunting like a pack TERFfy. Some of you are very goady today by the way.

UpstartCrow · 03/06/2018 16:55

I'd like @MNHQ to ask SupermatchGame to explain their repeated use of that image.

Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:55

Born male, die male. Unless you want to claim, here and now, that it is possible to change sex.

Pratchet · 03/06/2018 16:56

Goady = proving SMG wrong

AngryAttackKittens · 03/06/2018 16:56

So, running away rather than attempting to prove the "most people" thing? I guess that's a logical thing to do when you know that you cannot in fact prove that...

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2018 16:56

Or female enough for most people - you know away from this internet bubble - to consider them female. Or a woman.

What rubbish. They don't.

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2018 16:58

The fox, to me, represents the woman in the showers in prison.

Yes I'd say that's probably the most accurate analogy.