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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

622 replies

PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 03/05/2018 16:32

Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

OP posts:
Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 22:53

Just googling female reindeer pictures so i can prove im a reindeer

(Yes i know!!)

And apparently santas sleigh is pulled by female reindeer

Who knew!!!!

Nogodsnomasters · 03/05/2018 22:57

Omg he is hardly "demanding" an education from us all, if it were a female op who didn't know much about feminism and asked the same question, she would not be met with these answers, and that in itself is inequality! Those who are offended by this post come across as man haters.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 22:57

And thank you perfectly

Grin
TERFragetteCity · 03/05/2018 22:57

This isn't feminism

Feel free to do the OP's research yourself, it is still a free country.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 03/05/2018 22:59

Bloody hell.

The guy asked a question.

How is he supposed to know the etiquette of how to ask the question?

Honestly it seems like some want to attack him simply because he was born a man.

OP for me personally, feminism is about 3 things:

  1. Not being at a disadvantage because I happen to be a woman - so pay, hobbies etc shouldn't be different as I am a woman.

  2. To not be treated as just a sexual being. I say just, because obviously sometimes I choose to be a sexual being. My choice, not a mans. A man doesn't have to fear walking alone at night. A man doesn't have to worry if his top is too low or if he's coming across too flirty in case someone does something to them and claims they were asking for it.

  3. Not having my opinions valued less than a mans. Or for a varied opinion on behaviour of man vs woman. Man sleeps with 10 woman? Lucky. Woman sleeps with 10 men? Slut. Man chooses to work abroad for 2 weeks when has young child - great provider. Mother does? She doesn't love her child enough.

I feel we get nowhere by saying no men, don't support feminism. It's the few respectful, genuine men who want to adjust their behaviour that we should embrace, not vilify because many other men are vile.

PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 22:59

I bet she's not being paid as much as that fucking full-of-himself Rudolph! Angry

I am more than twice the age the OP posted he was.
I have no idea whether he was genuine, or a troll, or an MRA, but I am quite sure there are lots of young men like him out there: felling all right on for feeling the womenfolk should be allowed some more rights and all that.

My 15yo DS has found it quite easy to find all sorts of feminist resources online (some of which he found quite alarming, some so self-explanatory and obvious truths he could not believe they were necessary), so I don't think it's unreasonable to point out to an adult to go educate himself a tiny bit.
I like the poster upthread (way, waaaaaaay upthread) who said 'You don't ask a doctor to explain about all of medicine or a lawyer about The law", you have specific questions.

Anyhoo, female reindeer pics?

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 03/05/2018 23:01

Oh and I am disabled. If someone asked nicely I'd explain what I want as a disabled person. Why wouldn't I? If I'm given respect, I'm not going to poo poo about how they could've asked better.

Tolerance and respect if asked for, should also be given freely.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:02

perfectly

I dont see why all the female reindeer dont tell Rudolph where to go...Rudolph may even be a girl!!

I think this reindeer is pretty

Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?
PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 23:04

Rudolph may be identifying as a girl....

ErrolTheDragon · 03/05/2018 23:05

I've not read most of the posts since teatime, but is there anyone whose first post on FWR didn't result in them having their arse handed to them? (Mine was an embarrassingly naive bit of whataboutery or suchlike IIRC, deserved a sharp response. I lived, and learned).

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 03/05/2018 23:07

Rudplph is ALWAYS a girl when I sing it.

I don't sing it 'cos those reindeer bullies can fuck right off if they think I give a shit about their glee after the way they've behaved

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 03/05/2018 23:07

I was told Rudolph was a girl.

No idea how true that is though.

I think Rudolph is a great name for her.

LangCleg · 03/05/2018 23:07

I've not read most of the posts since teatime, but is there anyone whose first post on FWR didn't result in them having their arse handed to them?

See I just made a few fairly anodyne contributions to extant threads so that people got used to my name and when my arse eventually but inevitably got handed to me, it wasn't quite as brusque as it could have been!

I'm a sneaky one, me.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:08

certain

youve got to yell out all the extras

LIKE MONOPOLY!!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 03/05/2018 23:09

Mine was an embarrassingly naive bit of whataboutery

I went with 'Why can't men be feminists?' I got a response from Dittany.

I'll let you work out what the response was.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:10

errol

I did say that I didn't think dr who should be a woman

I felt it would be confusing to go to sleep nest to your husband and wake up next to your wife (following regeneration)

Then i had to run away and hide

PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 23:10

I can't remember what my first thread on FWR was, but Dittany handed me my arse and then later was very nice to me and actually went to a lot of time and effort to educate me.
I miss Dittany

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:11

Or next to your husband

Bloody hell!!

PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 23:11

LIKE A LIGHTBULB!

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:12
Grin

LIKE THE DINOSAURS

LangCleg · 03/05/2018 23:13

LIKE FISH FINGERS

BesmirchingMotherhood · 03/05/2018 23:14

All the other reindeers do the work and Rudolph gets the credit.

Of course he’s a man-deer.

Plus, antlers.

PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 23:14

Nothing like a bit of intellectual debate of an evening I find Grin

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:16

LIKE FISH FINGERS

What?

Where does that come in the song....god im singing it in my head and im sure im missing a line!!

Who is the 10th reindeer

ErrolTheDragon · 03/05/2018 23:16

Plus, antlers

All reindeer have antlers but only the chaps shed them and have to start again if I remember the naice documentary I saw recently. I've forgotten why though.