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Article on Maria Maclachlan Court case

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ReluctantCamper · 12/04/2018 21:21

Any one see this?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/radical-feminist-warned-refer-transgender-defendant-assault/

The asked that preferred pronouns be used

Ms MacLachlan replied: "I'm used to thinking of this person who is a male as male."

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SunsetBeetch · 14/04/2018 22:45

Sorry I don't know why I put 'email.her' Blush

PencilsInSpace · 14/04/2018 22:46

The female victim of an assault by three males is being told they asked for it by a sitting judge. This is a level of bias I assume he brings to all his decisions regarding male violence.

Yes.

ArtemisRhodes · 17/04/2018 10:00

Yes, a letter is being sent by a group of women and men, to the Judicial Conduct Investigations Office.

It asks if it is now law that female victims of male violence must perjure themselves by calling the defendant "she" if he turns up wearing lippy.

To add your name (privately) to the letter DM @cattdeskatgmail or email [email protected]

Just to reassure everyone, names are being kept strictly secret and will only ever be used on the letter to the Judicial Conduct Investigations Office.

So far almost 200 people have signed, in just two days.

ArtemisRhodes · 17/04/2018 10:00

Everyone seen this?

I know mumsnetters will all give freely.

Article on Maria Maclachlan Court case
AncientLights · 17/04/2018 12:14

Artemis which platform is that on please?

picklemepopcorn · 17/04/2018 15:59

Is that a new one? There last one was up to about £500 iirc.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 17/04/2018 16:11

NotTerf

That's the guy in the ponytail who threatened the girl TRA

Juells · 17/04/2018 16:28

That's the guy in the ponytail who threatened the girl TRA

That's the most pathetic thing of all, young women sucked into the delusion and fighting the cause, feeling all empowered no doubt.

AncientLights · 17/04/2018 16:40

Answering my own question, it's on Justgiving. It must be a new one, had £55 in it earlier today; there was more in the previous account. Also, not a lawyer, but I was under the impression that you have to use the money you collect for the stated purpose. So if, hypothetically, someone wanted to transition m2f and they had a crowdfunder to help them achieve that aim, they would not be able to use that money for any other purpose unless they contacted each donor and OK'd it with them. Is that right, any lawyers?

R0wantrees · 17/04/2018 17:17

James Kirkup in Spectator,

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/04/if-mumsnet-can-stand-up-for-free-speech-why-cant-mps/

Now, some people may think such warnings are overblown, that the idea of women, in an age of online communication, being silenced is an exaggeration. They should have a look at this court case, where Tara Wolf, a 26-year-old transwoman was convicted of assaulting 61-year-old feminist Maria Maclachlan. During the case, the judge admonished Ms Maclachlan for referring to Wolf as “he”. Ms Maclachlan said that she used male pronouns for Wolf because she considers Wolf to be biologically and legally male. Nonetheless, the judge instructed her to use female pronouns because Wolf “wished to be referred to as a woman”. Ms Maclachlan does not believe Wolf is a woman, but was effectively instructed to say things in court that she did not believe were true.

I’ll repeat that. A woman who was assaulted by a person she considers to be male was told by the judge hearing the case to refer to that person as female – out of respect for her attacker’s feelings. That is the extent to which the enforced norms of the transgender debate can affect a person’s ability to express themselves as they wish

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