Labour has failed women.

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twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/970753923945582593?s=21

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/self-defining-trans-women-to-be-allowed-on-labours-all-women-parliamentary-shortlists-partys-nec-set-to-announce-equalities-committee_uk_5a9d94f4e4b0479c0255e9c2

But I question the notion that transexuals aren't part of TRA.

India Willoughby is certainly a TRA.

A man who has had the whole surgery and hormone course to get rid of his penis and grow breasts is still a man.

A man, or a transwomen. It doesn't matter when it comes to rights, you'll struggle to find anyone on here who says such a person as a transwomen shouldn't have rights.

Transwomen should have exactly the same rights as everyone else.

Just not women's rights.

Which are designed partly because they need specific rights due to their biology, and partly because women need specific rights to maintain their privacy/safety.

I'm not down with this nostalgia for the soggy centre.
Isn't that Blair who;
Started a war that fostered terrorism?
Made gambling and payday loans the scourge of the working class?
Hostaged public services to PPIs?
Just sayin.

dogendsaredogs - it doesn't really matter if you were a supporter of the centre position (I certainly wasn't) or not. If there is a void at the centre, the Overton window goes bonkers and extremism creeps in. Voids are dangerous and threaten stability, as we can see in Western-style democracies throughout the world. We have no viable centre because the neoliberal economic model used for the last forty or so years collapsed with the financial crisis in 2008. A new one has yet to emerge and it would probably be a good thing for all of us if it hurried up and showed itself.

Leng I can see that . Voids are dangerous and threaten stability but to me theres always been a nihilism at the heart of neoliberalism , Blair would be all self-id and identity politics. I don''t understand your arguement or its background I;m afraid.

I won't vote for any party that is in favour of rights for transsexuals.

Whats wrong with transsexuals having rights? Of course they should have rights. just transwomen should not have womens rights, as they are not women. So basically, womens rights are for female people, with female biology.

I know a post op transwoman is still a man, nothing can change that, but personally I would have no issue sharing female spaces with someone like this. But this is on a courtesy level tbh, there should be no laws to force women to be fine with men in their spaces.

And yes, men should not have womens rights because as datun said they are

are designed partly because they need specific rights due to their biology, and partly because women need specific rights to maintain their privacy/safety.

Paul Brand @ PaulBrandITV
Sitting in the Commons while they discuss bullying/harassment is suspended Labour MP Jared O'Mara. Not seen in parliament since he was suspended.

Remember he got suspended for not being very nice about women. Yet he's still in the party and turned up today, as everyone has forgotten about him.

And he turned up for this debate in particular...

Of course they won't kick him out.

Oh his last official tweet was this from 20th October:

Jared O'Mara Office @ jomarampoffice
Today is @breastcancernow #wearitpink day! Let’s all wear pink, raise money and make lifesaving research happen

Irony Klaxon

I hesitate slightly in doing this, but I urge anyone concerned about Labour generally to read the current Westminstenders thread from page 5 to page 13.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3193506-Westminstenders-From-Russia-with-Love?pg=5&order=

Yes its supposed to be a thread about the EU but many of the threads over the last day or so are about the structural problems of British politics and what Jeremy Corbyn exposes. Its crucial to the understanding of how democracy works and whats also going on with Russia.

It is important to the politics of women.

I stress its not anti socialist. Nor is it pro-May (for whom is also owed the same sort of criticism). Its about the need to see the real danger - which isn't Brexit either.

Brexit merely exposes it.

I'm sure some leavers will also agree in parts.

thecatfromjapan posts are particularly good.