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TheXXFactor · 06/03/2018 13:24

I think you are in denial. This is coming from the left

Totally agree. The quickest way to embed these attitudes for a generation in Labour is to lie to yourself that they are due to some sort of right-wing conspiracy or infiltration. Absolute bollocks. There has always been a rich seam of misogyny on the left (as on the right) - look at how hard women had to push to get unions to take pay equality seriously, for example - but the now-despised neoliberals of New Labour did at least pay lip service to sex equality. Now that has been swept away and we're back to the good, old-fashioned sexism of the 70s - the Corbyn heyday - blended with the new misogyny of Big Tech, Bromentum and social media.

SeniorRita · 06/03/2018 13:56

redshoeblueshoe

HH supported PIE in the 70's, why do you think she will support women

I don't know what PIE is and I didn't suggest she would support women, I just wondered if she had made any public comment as she was the main driver behind the Equality Act.

LizzieSiddal · 06/03/2018 13:59

Has it been confirmed by Labour that they are going ahead with this?

VaguelyAware · 06/03/2018 14:18

PIE - Paedophile Information Exchange.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

VaguelyAware · 06/03/2018 14:19

Oops, sorry - I failed to refresh the page.

MrPan · 06/03/2018 14:40

My Twitter line is increasingly populated by the kool aid inclusive polite women. It's more males who are kicking a fuss.
But that's a survey of one.

woman11017 · 06/03/2018 14:43

Anne Goody Ruzylo on twitter:
Please send me your name, CLP and your position (if you hold one) if you intend resigning from the LP. A mass resignation is planned, if you resigned recently you can still add your name to the list.
Please don't resign in isolation, do it collectively.

MAYDAY 4 WOMEN
Damn, we are getting like 1 email a minute right now.
If want to leave over Self-ID please DONT resign from Labour individually. Lets collectivise this and do it WOMEN TOGETHER.…

SeniorRita · 06/03/2018 14:47

It's OK guys, my Google works.

leyat · 06/03/2018 15:02

I've just started a thread about this, but sharing here in case anyone misses it:

I am passing on an action started by @mayday4women on Twitter; they aren't on Mumsnet so they said I could post here for them.

Basically they are getting a lot of women contacting them saying they are cancelling their Labour memberships due to the decision by Labour's NEC to essentially take on self ID as party policy in every area, including re AWS. And they think it'd be a more powerful statement if women did it en masse together on International Women's Day, which is the 8th March (Thursday).

The idea is to let Labour see how important this is to women, and how badly they are letting women down. Everyone can always reinstate their memberships down the line, but this is a way to be seen and heard, and to make a statement. I'm not a member of any political party myself right now, but as I say I am passing this on and doing all I can to support my sisters in the Labour Party.

Mayday for women are drawing up a statement, and you can get in touch with them directly if you want to let them know you are taking part in the action: mayday4women@gmail

Cheers!

MacaroonMama · 06/03/2018 15:32

I am mid-school run but can I just be here for a minute with you all and have a little cry. So upset.

I will be furious and get into Twitter, email Labour etc, but just need I need to send you all solidarity and love and tissues.

LizzieSiddal · 06/03/2018 15:36

I feel the same Macaroon

I really hope when this policy is officially announced there is absolute uproar from women. We and men who support us, need to come together to tell Labour how fucked off we are.

Grumbleweed1969 · 06/03/2018 15:47

Certain aspects of The Labour Party Democracy Review haven't concluded yet. Good opportunity to give some feedback on this issue.

action.labour.org.uk/page/s/diversity-and-participation

Then resign! Grin

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 06/03/2018 15:59

And I’m done with Labour.

If they had actually done some consultation and actually listened to all sides and still came to the same conclusion, then I could stomach it a bit more but they didn’t do any of that. It’s a spit in the face for the women who came before.

How do you cancel a membership?

mimivanne · 06/03/2018 16:26

Leyat

I don't know if its me but couldn't contact Mayday on the gmail add ?

flapsDentata · 06/03/2018 16:35

If you want to know a bit more about PIE and Islington Care Homes cover up, this documentary is fascinating. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/derek-sawyer-jeremy-corbyns-former-constituency-agent/amp/

Some horrible stuff. I don’t think the situations are incomparable.

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TruScum · 06/03/2018 16:43

Has the ‘statement’ made an appearance yet?

SirVixofVixHall · 06/03/2018 16:47

I came to post about the mayday for women group res. I see it has been posted above. I'm not a member of any party but voted Labour, I certainly won't be voting for them again.

madaashellshell · 06/03/2018 17:05

I left over this a few weeks ago though I would ask women thinking now of leaving to try and do it in a coordinated way for maximum impact. @mayday4women are compiling a list. I'm angry too and I'd vote for anyone now who promised to do away with self ID, a poisonous, illogical, anti-science, misogynistic load of crap

RedToothBrush · 06/03/2018 17:22

Owen Jones @ OwenJones84
A senior Labour figure told me one of the main reasons the party has updated their position on trans rights is because of the anti-trans backlash.

In other words anti-trans activists overplayed their hand so much, they made Labour more pro-trans rights

For those saying: well that’s petty of Labour, isn’t it?

No: anti-trans activists drove the issue up the agenda, forced a debate and alienated people with (in some cases) an astonishingly vindictive, sometimes hateful approach, and the party acted.

It backfired, basically.

FWIW its not how I would interpret this.

Not at all.

ChocolateCoveredGrapes · 06/03/2018 17:24

Blaming women for the behaviour of men.

Framing the issue as the victim attacking the oppressor.

I think it backfired on Mr1984.

DarthArts · 06/03/2018 17:55

No: anti-trans activists drove the issue up the agenda, forced a debate and alienated people with (in some cases) an astonishingly vindictive, sometimes hateful approach, and the party acted.

So in other words "Fuck you" politics.

Let's consider how many other policies have been steam rolled through on the basis of the strength of the opposition?

Thinking.....thinking....thinking....

Nope - drawn a blank.

Anyone else think of one?

MamaLupine · 06/03/2018 18:09

I tweeted @mayday4women as I cancelled my membership to the Labour Party 2 weeks ago. They've been InTouch and are adding my name and CLP to their letter anyway which is great.

Winewinewinegin · 06/03/2018 18:32

Anyone emailing mayday for women I would doublecheck on their twitter account for correct address, not sure it is gmail

mimivanne · 06/03/2018 19:07

I got through on [email protected].
They are waiting for more women to contact them - currently 30 an hour,plan to work on a basic statement for us all to sign and send it to the newspapers as a mass resignation letter.
I resigned a few weeks ago but I can still be a signatory

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