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This woman is all of us.

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CAAKE · 17/02/2018 02:58

Lily Madigan speaking to a rapt audience at an Enfield North CLP meeting.

Photo is from this tweet -
twitter.com/enfieldnorthclp/status/964240546977013760

This woman is all of us.
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Thisusernamethingistricky · 17/02/2018 22:34

The lack of understanding that YOU don't get to tell someone what THEIR experience is.

And with that, my irony meter just exploded.

Myunicornfliessideways · 17/02/2018 22:41

Take a look at the record of the young MP who is Madigan's age and manages to behave like a professional adult. Madigan was legally an adult when they stood for a public position, were judged competent to take that post, and has stood on a public post with public responsibilities lobbing grenades ever since.

The whinging that 'don't be horrible to child' doesn't cut it.

Either the Labour Party should be held responsible for fielding a child in a political post and not controlling their behaviour (I'd have some sympathy for that POV, I think they've been astoundingly irresponsible in maintaining a young adult in a post they are evidentially not mentally fit for) or else we are talking about an adult in a political position who is behaving extremely badly and should be held responsible for that behaviour.

The fact we're even having this conversation illustrates clearly the male privilege accorded to a TIM, a biological woman would never be allowed this much indulgence and unconditional awww bless support.

thebewilderness · 17/02/2018 22:41

That is the double standard, Gamer. Your double standard.
Men like Lily are experts on women so they are the women's officer while women know nothing about the experiences of the trans identified male.

SimonBridges · 17/02/2018 22:58

The lack of understanding that YOU don't get to tell someone what THEIR experience is. YOU havent walked around in her shoes, you can only judge the outer package.

Yes, just like she can’t tell me what it is like to be a woman because no matter how hard she tries many of the things that makes a woman a woman will never be in her realm of experience.

I can’t imagine as a white person I would get very far as a BAME officer. So why is this different.

And Lily is 20 now. I’m willing to bet there. are young women in her constituency who are living independently with young babies right now. She isn’t a ‘young teen’.

TheDowagerCuntess · 17/02/2018 23:53

The lack of understanding that YOU don't get to tell someone what THEIR experience is.

😅

BitFuckedOffNow · 18/02/2018 00:06

Beyond this, I'm not really interested in participating in this thread anymore. I think its sad. My 15 year old has a better understanding of LGBTQ rights than anyone has shown in this thread.

Mm, and the rights of lesbian women who are being pressured to sleep with trans women with intact penises and being accused of transphobia if they don't? How about their rights?

What about the 80 percent of young people who would be likely to grow out of dysphoria if left to their own devices and not pushed towards transitioning and medical interventions? Many of whom are young women, who might well be survivors of sexual abuse, or autistic, or lesbians? Where do their rights fit in, when practitioners taking a supportive watchful waiting approach is considered transphobic?

Terfinater · 18/02/2018 00:26

Enjoy your fun girls. Have a great weekend :-)

We're women. Not girls . It's that biology thing again.

thebewilderness · 18/02/2018 02:05

WTF is it with people who seem to think that demonstrating their contempt for women adds verisimilitude to their argument, or their refusal to offer an argument?

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 18/02/2018 08:07

"YOU havent walked around in her shoes"

Dr marten boots are hardly rare, plenty of women here will have walked in them...

Ereshkigal · 18/02/2018 14:04

no matter what you think of a person's journey to get here, we are collectively WOMEN. (Remember, the law agrees with this!

LM isn't a woman, and the law allows for certain situations for women where even trans identified males with GRC can be excluded. So it is legally recognised that there is a difference.

PeteAndManu · 18/02/2018 16:13

Gamer could you reply to PencilsinSpace post please? Or can’t you so you’ve moved the goalposts again?

I don’t think or want abuse to have a place in politics - seems to be women on the receiving end mostly - but if Lily is going to dish it out (including dirty tricks like breaching DP laws) then they should be able to take it. Unfortunately I don’t think they can and I think GC women will take the flack when it implodes. It shouldn’t be that way but that is what will happen. I would be sympathetic but I’m saving my sympathy for women in jails having to share with TIMs.

CroneAlone · 18/02/2018 17:27

It's Rik isn't it. From The Young Ones.

WeAreGerbil · 18/02/2018 17:52

My 15 year old has a better understanding of LGBTQ rights than anyone has shown in this thread.

Yep, much better understanding than any of the women who have lived experience of being lesbian or bisexual, just in the same way Lily has a better understanding of women's rights than any actual women Hmm

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 19/02/2018 14:38

I 100% approve the trolly goodness of "circumgender". Drives TRAs up the wall.
twitter.com/worIdofgoo/status/934458513404899333

I definitely approve of this Grin

They seem to be pretty mad that their ridiculous 'transmisogyny' and such made up terms to pretend male people are oppressed by females has been 'appropriated'. Much like womanhood, aye?

DarthArts · 19/02/2018 15:36

I posted this on another thread. LM's latest tweet.

This woman is all of us.
picklemepopcorn · 19/02/2018 16:00

You know, Lilly is really very unpleasant. Disregarding everything else, just that!.

DodoPatrol · 19/02/2018 16:10

Christ, I can't even tell who is kidding and who is serious on that MrBel thread linked above.

PerfPower · 19/02/2018 17:03

I think LM is having some kind of crisis, I just had a quick look at their twitter after reading DarthArts last post. They don't seem particularly stable right now, if I was a friend or relative I'd be worried tbh.

whoputthecatout · 19/02/2018 17:06

Ooh scary Lil. We are all quaking in our shoes. Not me actually as I couldn't be arsed to bother with big scary Lil. Am blocked anyway even though I've never posted on Lil's big scary twitterfeed. What a top of the range twerp.

PerfPower · 19/02/2018 17:09

Sorry, ignore me. I just scrolled back a bit and it appears to be his normal. Fuck me - that's some proper hatred of women though ay.

DarthArts · 19/02/2018 17:25

@PerfPower

Indeed....reading LM's tweeting history I think it's fair to say that most people would be somewhat sceptical that someone which such views would be a suitable candidate for any position of consequence in any political party and downright aghast that they should be a woman's officer.

thebewilderness · 19/02/2018 18:49

Nobody ever expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Patodp · 19/02/2018 19:36

[email protected]

caringdenise009 · 19/02/2018 19:56

thebewilderness it isn't the Spanish inquisition, they're the Judean People's Front......or possibly the People's Front of Judea. And they want their gestation box.

thebewilderness · 19/02/2018 20:17

I am guessing it will rival the Spanish Inquisition if the government does not give them their bloody gestation box.

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