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This woman is all of us.

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CAAKE · 17/02/2018 02:58

Lily Madigan speaking to a rapt audience at an Enfield North CLP meeting.

Photo is from this tweet -
twitter.com/enfieldnorthclp/status/964240546977013760

This woman is all of us.
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BeyondTerfyCassandra · 17/02/2018 18:58

Gamer, I'm tempted not to get waylaid here, but anyway...

Have a read of Maddigans twitter.
See if you can find one tweet about women, that doesn't have the "trans" prefix

RB67, I'm not sure how autism was qualified in the research, SI or diagnosed. If I wasn't mid assignment now, I'd read it and see if I could find out.

SusanBunch · 17/02/2018 18:58

Is Liam really still living with his horribly abusive and transphobic family?

Weren't they the ones who started that 'fake' twitter account with the Jimmy Savile and rape jokes? As you do.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 17/02/2018 19:03

Oh yeah of course, I've lost count of all of the rapey accounts I've set up for my sisters... Hmm

Terftastic · 17/02/2018 19:04

Lily Madigan's latest witch hunt:

twitter.com/madigan_lily/status/964913680143015936

I swear it, the Labour Party will be burning books on the street soon.

picklemepopcorn · 17/02/2018 19:10

What's wrong with conversation therapy, anyway??? Grin

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 17/02/2018 19:16

It's good to talk, as BT would say Grin

TheDowagerCuntess · 17/02/2018 19:36

Gamer - if Lily Madigan didn't hate women, I'd be more open to what you're saying.

RedToothBrush · 17/02/2018 20:02

You're words stand no bearing at all on the matter because in the UK, we have the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

Thomas Jefferson

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 17/02/2018 20:21

Three rousing cheers for Nicholas Davies

RedToothBrush · 17/02/2018 20:23

If Labour go after Nicholas Davies, things might get interesting.

picklemepopcorn · 17/02/2018 20:24

Labour appears to be clasping a viper to its bosom.

thebewilderness · 17/02/2018 20:35

Transgender affirmation is designed to target non conforming children who may be Gays or Lesbians for conversion to transgender. That is pretty obvious by now, I think.

thebewilderness · 17/02/2018 20:44

This particular young person being a woman's officer will be a woman for the rest of her life, and she deserves to participate and be represented.
Madigan could desist at any time and live as a man. That is the problem with self-ID.
The 8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
Can you mandate belief?
Can you codify into law the idea that some people can mind over matter themselves out of material reality and into the opposite sex and must be treated accordingly?
It is like transubstantiation. A belief that no one actually believes.
Will you allow people to drug and mutilate children based on this belief that no one believes?

thebewilderness · 17/02/2018 20:59

Only males can be transwomen, so it would be unpossible for them to be women since women are adult human females.

SusanBunch · 17/02/2018 21:06

This particular young person being a woman's officer will be a woman for the rest of her life, and she deserves to participate and be represented.

Lily has not undergone surgery, has not taken hormones, has not got a GRC. Has basically done nothing to prove any sort of long-term irreversible commitment to living as a woman. Lily is a teenage boy who has said one day that he is a woman and the whole world has accepted it and elected him women's officer. He has a girlfriend as well, which apparently makes him a 'lesbian'. He is basically a heterosexual male.

picklemepopcorn · 17/02/2018 21:18

Like Alex.
No surgery, no hormones, still sleeps with women, but as a lesbian. Alex says straight women are discovering their inner lesbian, by fancying Alex.

And apparently 'she's' widening the bandwidth of being a woman.

If he was widening the bandwidth of being a man, I'd applaud.

This woman is all of us.
Gamer · 17/02/2018 21:48

Yes. A teenager. It is dumbfounding that 1. the level of maturity to recognize that this IS a teenager and to bear that in mind when contextualizing the content she puts on social media. God help us all if social media was around when I was that age, and 2. The lack of understanding that YOU don't get to tell someone what THEIR experience is. YOU havent walked around in her shoes, you can only judge the outer package.

Beyond this, I'm not really interested in participating in this thread anymore. I think its sad. My 15 year old has a better understanding of LGBTQ rights than anyone has shown in this thread.

Of course, silly me popped on to a thread that was only ever meant to heckle a TEENAGER, so I shouldn't have expected much. :-)

Enjoy your fun girls. Have a great weekend :-)

Mayday01 · 17/02/2018 21:52

Gamer, so which is Madigan.
A strong independent potential trailblazing political leader, or a tremulous gentle girl?
You can't have both.

Mayday01 · 17/02/2018 21:53

No one tells women what their experience is either, it works both ways. Cis my arse.

ReanimatedSGB · 17/02/2018 21:55

I'm not sure that Madigan is all that fussed about trans/LGBTQ rights either, TBH. I think Madigan's focus is the specialness of Madigan, end of.

ReanimatedSGB · 17/02/2018 21:56

Ooh, if Alex was simply a straight man who liked eyeliner, I'd be in there... (possibly missing point of thread but I love glammy men...)

PencilsInSpace · 17/02/2018 22:05

Right look, is Lily a fragile TEENAGER or is they up to the job of representing women in their constituency? One or the other. Lily is 20 now BTW. Women in Lily's constituency deserve decent representation. If Liliy is a fragile teenager who can't be held responsible for anything then who's pulling the strings? They need to be held responsible.

This isn't dumbfounding it's just fucking dumb.

The lack of understanding that YOU don't get to tell someone what THEIR experience is

Arf.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/02/2018 22:11

Yes. A teenager. It is dumbfounding that 1. the level of maturity to recognize that this IS a teenager and to bear that in mind when contextualizing the content she puts on social media

Not a teenager by the way. Hope that helps you.

picklemepopcorn · 17/02/2018 22:24

I know, Alex is gorgeous! But he isn't redefining womanhood. He's a great man, though.

As for Lilly's immaturity, why is she a women's officer if she is young and silly?

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/02/2018 22:29

If he was widening the bandwidth of being a man, I'd applaud

Alex is a very good looking man.

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