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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fucking hell, India Willoughby is seriously slandering Karen Ingala Smith

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 07/02/2018 22:53

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/961369339831115776

And other tweets. I think she has lost the plot.

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Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:00

Arrrggghhh this person makes my blood boil.

How can you claim to be a woman and yet have no interest in women's issues?

IW literally doesn't believe in biology . Linked this to a tweet about xx and xy - not really getting that these are congenital issues. Nothing to do with gender. And they are still a sex, just with an extra chromosome, just like other trisomies. The new Nipt tests for all these.

www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/globe-debate/think-gender-comes-down-to-x-and-y-chromosomes-think-again/article24811543/

AnotherQuoll · 08/02/2018 19:02

I think India is putting on a show to impress men. "See guys, I'm the real° woman here! At least I* appreciate you. Not like those man-hating feminists! I do the womanning better than them. Pick me!".

Juzza12 · 08/02/2018 19:03

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AnotherQuoll · 08/02/2018 19:03

[Weirdness happened with the bolding there, sorry]

Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:06

After perusing the twitter for a bit I can see that there's a LOT of surfing on the new found 'fame,' putting down 'rad fems' etc.

So very sad.

Isadora2007 · 08/02/2018 19:10

Gutted to be able to see her profile.

Any suggestions of what i tweet to her?

Datun · 08/02/2018 19:14

The fact these people can't understand why women don't want them in these places is the exact reason they shouldn't be.

Hell YES.

I've been trying to find a succinct way of putting it. This is it.

Tweet that to India.

Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:14

"For someone who is so passionate about being a woman, you're not very keen on supporting women's issues."

Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:16

The fact these people can't understand why women don't want them in these places is the exact reason they shouldn't be.

Yes!

Especially as IW tweeted about a "transgender only home" in the north east. (Good tweet reply too...)

thebewilderness · 08/02/2018 19:17

IW had an epiphany in the CBB house. They discovered that no one viewed them as a woman, not even themselves.
That is where the rage response to material reality began.
Karen is the target for IW narcissistic rage provided by the Britain morning TV show.

Datun · 08/02/2018 19:20

This from the twit on the other thread, who said mumsnetters made his friend cry because we would like to maintain sex segregation.

Says it all.

Arguing that, because of potential past trauma involving males, causing seeing a penis or even an individual likely to be in possession of a penis to be triggering is justification for segregation is as absurd as it is offensive.

Absolutely clueless.

Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:20

This makes no sense.

Fucking hell, India Willoughby is seriously slandering Karen Ingala Smith
Soubriquet · 08/02/2018 19:21

Any suggestions of what i tweet to her?

I really don't know...since I didn't tweet anything to him Grin

Ekphrasis · 08/02/2018 19:22

Trans only home.

Fucking hell, India Willoughby is seriously slandering Karen Ingala Smith
Fucking hell, India Willoughby is seriously slandering Karen Ingala Smith
OlennasWimple · 08/02/2018 19:23

Shon Faye is BFF with Little Owen Jones

I don't think Karen should get into a libel case against IW, nothing good will come of it other than lawyers getting ££s. But it would be brilliant if someone like Janice Turner would interview her, mostly to raise awareness of her brilliant website, but also discuss the GMB interview and IW's subsequent treatment of her.

Yy to the poster who suggests that IW is trying to be the "cool girl" by defending men in the face of the sort of stuff that made my DH say sometimes he is ashamed of what men do to women (surely that's the only appropriate response to reading the list? "Fuck, men are horrific in their treatment of women"?)

Gacapa · 08/02/2018 19:26

IW has that hyper rage. Like men on steroids. It's white hot aggression and repulsive.

I can see why he's attracted to Daleks.

Juzza12 · 08/02/2018 19:47

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AngryAttackKittens · 08/02/2018 19:53

Someone who isn't already blocked needs to point out to India that disabled women are in fact women and not a non-woman subgroup.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/02/2018 19:54

I can see why he's attracted to Daleks.

And with that Gapaca wins the thread. Though were there even Daleks in the episode he was talking about? If India told me the sky was blue I'd go double check just in case.

UpstartCrow · 08/02/2018 19:54

Isadora2007 Thu 08-Feb-18 19:10:38
Gutted to be able to see her profile.

Any suggestions of what i tweet to her?

Encourage India to make a website to honour the memory of all the UK Trans people murdered, by year.
And to fund Trans DV shelters and Rape Crisis.

LizzieSiddal · 08/02/2018 20:01

I don’t think it’s a recent thing that IW has been a mysoginistic, nasty prick.

Remember it was months ago that she told Jenni Murray that she was “transphobic” because she dared to ask IW if he looked at Women’s issues differently to a woman because they’d only recently become one. (Go Jenni)
Jenni then got a warning from the BBC Angry

thebewilderness · 08/02/2018 20:06

I wonder if it is the BBCs position that males can transmogrify or transubstantiate into females, and females into males? I think it would be good if they clarified their position if endorsing male fantasy instead of material reality.

SunsetBeetch · 08/02/2018 20:32

I've reported some of India's tweets about Karen as tagetted harassment for what good it will do. Also sent Karen a quick supportive tweet. I've got peak trans at light speed over the past few weeks. OMG! Shock

CecilyNeville · 08/02/2018 21:32

AngryAttackKittens I did actually go and check that at the time IW said it, as I have faaarrr too much time on my hands, and there weren't in fact any Daleks in the episode referred to!

mirialis · 08/02/2018 21:55

The thing that has struck me during and post CBB is how much more offended the purple unicorn/rainbow flag emoji group on twitter are by Ann Widdecombe not accepting "Courtney" as "real" rather than an act, than they are by IW's accusations that AW repeatedly "misgendered" IW. Actually AW said "Courtney" was not like IW and was "an act" and has had a lot of shit for being disrespectful for that.

But "Courtney" is much younger and much more attractive and has a lot more support despite being in a relatively weaker position that IW (i.e. someone who has gone through full transition and lives as IW all the time, rather than JW or IW as suits).

Again, a horrible lesson in the reality of life as a 50 year-old "woman" for IW.