If you've only recently 'peaked'....

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...please could I ask exactly what was your lightbulb moment? What did you hear or read that pushed you to our alpine slopes?

Here's a good Peak Trans piece. An article showing a "brave" man coming out to his wife and 2 very young children, blowing up his marriage and then deciding that he's not Trans anymore, all within the space of a year.
He gets all kinds of abuse because he couldn't be "authentic" trans, so is now a "brave" gender-fluid man - although I'm not sure what that means.
Also when he was trans he got lots of attention, articles, TV appearances, etc.

Daily Mirror Article on Detransition

FYI according to trans ideology no trans people every detransition - so it's good to see a few stories come out of men who get fed up with the lady face performance (which I believe we will see a load more of in the future).

Its like religion!

I can see parallels - you fall in with a ready made community who all share and amplify your beliefs, leaving is hard because the same community that embraced you will cast you out...

Oh god yes the term CIS and realising that is what people saw me as for simply being born a woman!

A friend's husband transitioned to be become a woman. He is a GP, and is now listed on the practice website as a female GP. I had this realisation that women will be deliberately booking an appointment with a female GP for gynae/sexual/sensitive matters, and will be treated by, essentially, a man in a dress and lippy. That was my peak teams moment.
I want to add that they're an absolutely lovely couple; he's an excellent doctor; I'm very pleased that s/he is happy etc. etc. But I feel the women patients of the GP practice are somehow being defrauded.

I peaked late last year after hearing of the assault of Maria at Speakers Corner and reading an article in the Guardian asking people to stop calling women TERFs. Miranda Yardley provided an education.

Last summer I started sailing with a new group specifically for women, I have sailed for years and leapt at this chance because men do treat women as helpless beginners on yachts and it's so tedious, plus the mixed sailing groups can get overly sexual as it's men away from their wives for the weekend.
After one trip another women who was there told me one of the sailors was in fact trans. So a man. I had helped him on with his lifejacket and talked to him about not crushing his boobs as if he was a women. I'm very conflicted about this as the group is set up specifically for women and this guy has invited himself in. To me there are consent issues here. It might suit him to join a women's group but I was expecting a women's group to not have men in it, that is precisely why I fucking went. I was not touching him as a man, he tricked me as far as I am concerned. He is also claiming to be a lesbian as he is a heterosexual man.

I am now sick of hearing about men being in every woman's event, space, conversation, everything, they are either IN DISGUISE or so fucking obvious that they have to INTIMIDATE you into silence. That Vagina museum thread was just sickening, we can't talk about cunts without being trans inclusive. GIVE ME FUCKING STRENGTH.

I'm done with the pronouns. I will never call a man she. They have simply not earned my respect at all.

And being called a bigot by people not even born when I was coming out as a feminist 40 years ago, just keep your patronising attitudes to yourself, they are embarrassing.

Just peaked again after finding out that Girlguiding U.K has changed its guidelines to allow boys who 'identify as girls' to join whilst encouraging girls who 'identify as boys' to leave.

Seriously can women not have anything without men/boys sticking their ore in?

My dd goes to rainbows. There's a reason I chose to send her there instead of scouts.

Accepting boys I can get behind (although I understand objections to it, too). But encouraging girls to leave

Menstruators and chestfeeding and birthing individuals. I’m writing about motherhood (some years back) only to discover that it’s a disappeared category.

You know that scene in rosanne when Darlene gets her period and starts throwing her stuff into a garbage bag and Rosanne comes in and essentially says “those things are girls things if a girl is using them”? I thought that this was about breaking down stereotypes. It’s only recently that I’ve realised that a generation of men believes this literally. I am a woman/girl. Therefore my body belongs to a woman/girl. Therefore my genitals are clearly those of a woman/girl.

My sister and her friends are all self diagnosing dysphoria and blaming gender for all their problems. And when I said to a friend that I didn’t think gender was always or often the answer to problems she left and later blocked me on fb. My kid is being told that despite me insisting that colours are for everyone and so are toys - including dolls - his preference for pink shoes and his long hair and the fact that he doesn’t “feel” male (whatever that feels like) means he’s probably not. He’s asking to call himself non binary. He’s 11.

I’m done. Lady penis is not a thing, gender non conformity does not make one trans and ‘transing’ historical women is offensive beyond belief. Akin to people post-humously converting Jewish holocaust victims to Mormonism.

Hugely ignorant question here but can someone explain to me what peaked means ?

It's when you think you've reached the pinnacle of absurdity (though you often later find out there is still a yet higher peak lurking in the clouds)

Hugely ignorant question here but can someone explain to me what peaked means ?

It's a reference to the term "Peak Trans" which is going around. It's a play on the term "Peak oil" and means that moment when something happens that is the summit of trans nonsense, the event that makes you re-think your position as accepting trans advocacy without examination.

I had this realisation that women will be deliberately booking an appointment with a female GP for gynae/sexual/sensitive matters, and will be treated by, essentially, a man in a dress and lippy.

I also feel really strongly about this. On a personal level, I've got no problems with male HCPs doing intimate examinations but I have no trauma. I have taken to requesting same sex HCPs for anything intimate now, if only to make the point that I can and should be able to. I think if we all did that, the NHS would have to take notice.

Ohh I see thanks.

While I very much sympathise with trans people and want them to feel accepted (imagine being raised your whole life in a male body but having the exact same brain and mindset that you do), the Rose McGowan thing pissed me right off.

Also as a gay woman being told I'm transphobic if I don't find myself attracted to MtF / penises

Although I do find drag queen Courtney Act unbelievably attractive despite the penis so I'm not sure how that works lol. Greys areas I suppose.

Slightly off topic but If I didn't know who Courtney Act was I would have assumed he was a woman when I first saw the character. He 'passes' far more than most TW do imo.

imagine being raised your whole life in a male body but having the exact same brain and mindset that you do

I don't really understand this statement because it suggests there is an innately female brain which I don't believe.

If I was born a male with my exact personality and intelligence level there would be nothing that would mark me out as being different to any other man. Evenuatal differences in mindset would surely come from socialisation as a male.

I don't feel innately female in my female body. I know I am female because of my biology and the resulting treatment I have received from others and society because of that biology.

I don't especially enjoy things marked out as 'female' it's just I'm aware of the gender box I'm put into.

Ovahere that's a very good point. Honestly I'd never really thought of it like that.. have definitely given me something to ponder !

swan we've had some very interesting and lengthy discussions on here about whether gender is innate and what being 'trapped in the wrong body' means.

I think most if not all of us came to the conclusion that 'feeling' female isn't really a thing for us where as 'knowing' we are female because of biology and not liking the stereotypes that spring from that is definitely a thing.

"Its like religion!"

More like a cult.

Well I joined MN for a start - after seeing a very scary thread on a Twitter link about people not being able to say what they really thought about self ID.
Before that I remember seeing that trans kid on C4 saying he'd apply for the Jo Cox Women's programme - that's when I realized something weird was going on. Then he/she gets elected and things become even weirder. Media carpet bombing of 'transwomen are women' and a witch hunt on anyone who disagrees.

I was always totally in favour of trans rights - and still am - but this has got to be going against the rights of real transwomen as well. I'm quite angry and I can tell I'm only one of many angry women.

Welcome cinematique

It's always great to hear when people have worked out for themselves that the Emperor has no clothes and have actively sought this board out. You seem to be one of a growing number.

Finally making an account after months of browsing...

So last week I was in a loo in a cafe having a wee (I know right, exciting times!) but I'd left the cubicle door ajar as I'd left my young child outside by the sinks and my baby sitting on the floor as the cubicle was too small for us. From the cubicle next door I heard an audible male cough. I was petrified. Absolutely petrified. The last two times I'd used a mixed gender toilet (before kids, in clubs) I had men try to enter the cubicle with me - once with force, once while groping me. I know this person was almost certainly going about their daily business and having a wee and was probably embarrassed to be there but it made me rethink ever leaving a cubicle ajar again.

Anyway, I spoke to a trans friend about this and the general gist of the convo was 'she was in more danger than you were' 'who would assault you in a toilet with two kids anyway?' and also a fair bit of flirtation which just made my skin crawl.

So hello! :) pleased to be here!

Thanks OvaHere

I have been hiding in the shadows (suppose I still am), but who wants to be slandered as a witch? I don't.
I also started looking at this and how to make people aware of what's happening. I work in the film industry and the recent change in funding (50% men/50% women) was a hard won victory. I'm wondering if the countries that passed self ID so far have actually done it quietly? I can't believe there hasn't been some sort of protest about it in Ireland/ Argentina etc.

Yes it seems to have been passed very quietly with few people realising the implications although Ireland has a slightly different set up and I believe certain sex segregated things are still exempt. I have an Argentinian friend whom I had a lot chat with about it and the situation in SA is very different, the TW there are mostly sex workers who were once technically speaking gay men. Homophobia is still a very big problem comparative to here (not that here is perfect of course).

Omgwtfbbq

Welcome and I'm sorry your friend was dismissive about your concerns. Women are rarely taken seriously despite plenty of evidence that our fears are far from unfounded.

I hope you stick around.

Well tonight I shall be making more of my female friends aware of this issue. I am on a mission to raise awareness of potential problems and the erosion of our rights.