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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rose McGowan video

367 replies

QueenShitSandwich · 02/02/2018 07:24

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Thought this might be of interest

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Ereshkigal · 02/02/2018 23:50

Don't worry I'm not particularly high minded on that score! Sometimes one needs to vent.

Ereshkigal · 02/02/2018 23:50

am now seeing some TRAs say that the women naming Andi Dier as a child sexual abuser and rapist are "making it up" (because women lie about rape, amirite?)

How very typical.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/02/2018 23:52

And so it turns out that this shouty man verbally abusing a victim of rape at her book signing is a sexual predator, who would have thought.

One might ask why it would be in that particular predator's interests to discourage women from talking about male predation, and then expand from there to the current focus of most trans activists on ensuring that people with fully operational penises have access to spaces where women and girls are naked and vulnerable and that lesbians are shamed for saying no to sex with people with cocks.

GrooovyLass · 02/02/2018 23:56

I think I've just hit that "peak trans" thing...

AngryAttackKittens · 03/02/2018 00:01

Because when someone pulls down her pants and sees a vagina, she won't be murdered for it.

Yeah, she'll "only" be raped instead. "Cis" women, so lucky!

Thehairthebod · 03/02/2018 00:24

One might ask why it would be in that particular predator's interests to discourage women from talking about male predation, and then expand from there to the current focus of most trans activists on ensuring that people with fully operational penises have access to spaces where women and girls are naked and vulnerable and that lesbians are shamed for saying no to sex with people with cocks.

Exactly!

How can people not see through this?

Xenophile · 03/02/2018 00:35

I wonder how much Andi got paid to put an end to RG’s revelations?

30 pieces of silver?

More?

Less?

Xenophile · 03/02/2018 00:42

Another thing that has become glaringly obvious is that none of the people going for RG believe the TWAW mantra either. If they actually believed they were real actual women, they wouldn’t be so united in their support for Andi. Andi would have been told to get back in their box by now if they really believed that Andi was a real woman.

They give themselves away by blindly supporting Andi.

BitterLittlePoster · 03/02/2018 01:18

This can't go on much longer, can it? Every now and then it hits me how ridiculous this all is. Those people came to hear Rose McGowan, I'll bet %95 of them thought "WTF?!"

And I'm snickering imagining the jaded New York security guards hauling that guy out of there. Him telling them he doesn't want to participate in their capitalist bullshit. Okay, dude, I mean miss.

pisacake · 03/02/2018 01:25

Katelyn Burns is a stefonknee-level perve. He fathered two kids then when he was done, walked on his wife holding the five-month-old baby, quit his job, paid zero child support and posted on Twitter about going to 'women's conference' and begging for funds for the same, while also fetishizing his 'trans virginity' in fabulous autogynephilic detail.

pisacake · 03/02/2018 01:27

also i don't think it's bad that the accusers of Andi Diers are not properly labelling him as a man, if he they were 'misgendering' him people would just write them off as 'transphobic trolls'. They are saying 'we are still pro-trans-madness, it's just that this Andi is a perve'

vesuvia · 03/02/2018 01:39

Quote from the linked article written by Katelyn Burns (a transgender-identifying male):

"Because when someone pulls down her pants and sees a vagina, she won't be murdered for it. That is not something she fears. That's why she's cis... Cis women get murdered, by their husbands and men they rejected. We go through the same shit, statistically more. AND we get murdered because we decided to slay the street in a tight dress."

In the United States, in 2015, 3,519 women and girls were murdered. In the same year, in the same country, 22 transgender people were murdered. (That is a ratio to 160 to 1).

Sources :
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6628a1.htm?s_cid=mm6628a1_w
transrespect.org/en/map/trans-murder-monitoring/?submap=tmm_2013#

vesuvia · 03/02/2018 01:43

oops, the second source was actually :
transrespect.org/en/map/trans-murder-monitoring/?submap=tmm_2015

Mrsmiguelcervantes · 03/02/2018 03:21

If you have a sec leave her a positive review on Amazon as well www.amazon.co.uk/Brave-Rose-McGowan-ebook/dp/B0777JKCG4?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Mrsmiguelcervantes · 03/02/2018 03:27

Looking at all the handmaidens defending this man on Twitter. There truly is a special place in hell for women who support and prioritise men ie trans women over actual women. I feel such anger towards these treacherous idiots. They deserve everything that’s coming to them in the hell they are helping to create where women have no rights and ‘woman’ has no meaning any more.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 03/02/2018 04:43

Wow. Go Rose. I had no idea she was so amazing and tough. Might get her book in support.

CAAKE · 03/02/2018 08:15

There's a big backlash happening with both Rose and some venues cancelling further book events. The TA's have been busy busy.

Rose McGowan video
athingthateveryoneneeds · 03/02/2018 08:17

One can't help but wonder if this was orchestrated in some way - did that TIM have an agenda, aside from the obvious desire to shout and abuse her?

FunnyOnyon · 03/02/2018 08:18

Hmm, i wonder if they have actually seen the video cake? Angry

NaturalWoman · 03/02/2018 08:20

I don't see how they can...

GoodyHemlock · 03/02/2018 08:22

It's funny isn't it, feminists have to be purer than pure in the eyes of the handmaidens or their views are disregarded - even when they are saying the same thing as the handmaidens.

But TA's can be rapists and paedophiles but still get the support if they happen to be parroting the accepted lines.

Seems to operate a lot like male privilege...

Ereshkigal · 03/02/2018 08:24

One can't help but wonder if this was orchestrated in some way - did that TIM have an agenda, aside from the obvious desire to shout and abuse her?

He went there deliberately to target her for her comments that transwomen are transwomen. It was his idea of activism. He boasted about it on his Patreon page.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/02/2018 08:29

Like most TRAs his agenda was "all eyes on me, I'm the only one who matters, and women who refuse to acknowledge that should be punished".

Also as a predator McGowan must be particularly threatening to him, since she's helped a lot of other women to come forward by doing so herself. Any man going after her has skeletons in his closet.

hazeyjane · 03/02/2018 08:33

I'm so glad this is being talked about here, the thin sliver of sanity in amongst all the madness. Dh just showed me Rose's feed on twitter, and I could feel my blood pressure rising reading the abuse she is getting for this and the way the story is being spun in the media.