Rose McGowan video

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Thought this might be of interest

*Clunk, clunk

There it was, the sound of low-key intimidation. It was as if he was reading from a script off of the countless articles of trans women being beaten and murdered in the U.S.*

Someone certainly seems to be reading off a script there, but I'm pretty sure that it's not the imaginary scary black man.

Many of them are exclusively attracted to women (despite thinking lesbians shouldn't be), and they're (to use MRA terminology) "beta" males who aren't going to go after aggressive men or men who ridicule them. There was a good example on twitter the other night when there was a thread where as a joke men were posting pictures of trans identified males they found unattractive and laughing at them, under the heading "Labour's New All Women Shortlist". You'd expect the transactivists to descend on them en masse, wouldn't you? Can you imagine what they would say to women? Of course they were nowhere to be seen.

This is why we really need men to stand against them too. They can't all think so little of us that they just don't care.

It's one thing to ridicule them on twitter but they really should be standing up and calling them out on it.

The most vocal TRAs appear to be the sort that are themselves (under the lipgloss) straight men. This is how they know to keep away from other straight men. They know they will as a group not be kind about asserting their feelings.

The most vocal TRAs appear to be the sort that are themselves (under the lipgloss) straight men. This is how they know to keep away from other straight men. They know they will as a group not be kind about asserting their feelings

I just wish people would make these observations publicly. I really want to hear them defend them. Or hear how they'd respond to a man challenging them publicly.

I am also a bit angry at the publisher and the book store for not anticipating that sexual predators would come to heckle a woman at a book signing who exposes sexual predators.

Eresh, that's a little bit encouraging that some men are seeing the madness

Bewikderness, I'm sure they did anticipate it and discuss it. But policing these things is really difficult. The security team were right on it in fairness.

It isn't feasible to vet a sign up list really, no one would have the time and actually I don't register for public events under my real name (not because I'm hiding anything but because my real name is incomprehensible to many English people and if there are name badges etc I simply cannot face dealing with my real name).

So anyone who was actually planning trouble is bound to sign up under a fake name, I'd have thought?

If anything, I'd imagine the organisers would be concerned about Wankstain defenders rather than thinking a TRA would turn up and try to make it about them.

Eresh, that's a little bit encouraging that some men are seeing the madness

Oh they do. They find it very amusing though. With few exceptions, they are just laughing at it. They aren't sticking up for women. And lefty bros obviously are very committed to the "transwomen are women" view. Publicly, anyway.

That thread was vicious @Ereshkigal - really cruel. And yet I didn't see a single post on it screaming TERF or even a handmaiden calling it out. They expect and accept men to be aggressors. Women are not allowed to challenge.

I'm probably being a bit dim, but how do you know the "hate crime" story was made up?

Erishkigel I have rarely seen a TRA get into it with a man, unless that man has something the TRA can leverage to manipulate opinion and perception against them - such as position, power or platform. It another way for them to collect followers and sympathy. The 'regular Joe' men fighting or laughing at this rarely get acknowledged - they might get blocked, but they hardly ever get called out. TRA's wouldn't dare go toe-to-toe with straight, non-trans men with nothing to 'lose' from a twitter spat. It makes them aggressive and threatening to a TRA. They can't hold them to ransom in any way, shape or form.

It's both fascinating and sickening watching the way they work. I would genuinely LOVE to scan the brains of some of the wee twerps, just to see how many little psychopaths we are dealing with. Because some of the things I have seen extend FAR BEYOND narcissism. Some really do give me the fucking chills!

Men don't get screamed at and told they should die in a fire. Or threatened with rape. Or told where to shove a broken bottle.

Only women who dare to speak out.

Funny that.

It's both fascinating and sickening watching the way they work.

A lot of them remind me of the Sparts and Trots at my university in the late 70s/early 80s. The original Trustafarian socialists - They disrupted any political meeting - including Feminist Soc ones, with their mantra of "Workers revolution" - women couldn't be liberated unless the workers were liberated. Well, fairenuff, I s'pose, except let's get on with both revolutions, eh?

But they were personally all rather nasty sneery (and smelly) young men, who oozed masculine privilege while playing "I'm more oppressed than you." In behaviour, dress & accent (but not beliefs), I come across as insufferably upper middle class, and that really riled them.

I remember having my breakfast one morning at the student union, after an 8am start on my dissertation in the :Library, and being interrupted at my table by a Spart/Trot trying to sell me The Socialist Worker or something. It was at the time of Glasnost & Solidarity in Poland, and I murmured some mild support for Lech Walenca [sp?] and his union and got a full flood of how the Solidarity movement was against the workers. When I demurred, and then asked him to leave me in peace as I'd had a long morning & wanted my coffee, he left me with the parting remark that I needed to open my mind.

I suspect what he was really desperate for was a woman, any woman, to open her legs for him. I don't think he got much.

Funny, I remember the whole incident as if it were yesterday. Nasty little stringy oik that he was. THat's the kind of mentality I'm seeing in these TRAs 30 years later. Same socially inept and badly adjusted spoilt brats.

I think much of the style is very much male entitlement, MoM. The substance is pure dominance dance, straight out of the Orwell handbook. Tell a big lie and shout down and demonize any who dispute you. They do it because it works.

There are lots of people trying to silence her, speaking about how 'fragile and ill she she is'. Makes me sick.

Article in The Pool:
www.the-pool.com/news-views/opinion/2018/6/Yomi-Adegoke-on-Rose-McGowan-Andi-Dier-Brave

Plus the usual comments you would expect on the Facebook link:
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1638050832943049&id=777621335652674

Actually reading further I’d say the Facebook comments on the Pool article are a fair mix with lots of support for Rose.

Oops sorry just noticed this article has a separate thread further down the board