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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour Against Transphobia Facebook group

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NotTerfNorCis · 19/01/2018 17:40

Lily Madigan and Aisling Musson are asking for 'screenshots and evidence of transphobic behaviour' so they can make Labour 'a truly safe space for all members regardless of their gender identity or lack thereof.' In other words, doxxing people so they can be thrown out of the party for gender-critical views.

The group write-up is:

A group formed to oppose the rising tide of Transphobia in the UK Labour Party and to seek to make the Party a truly safe space for all members regardless of their gender identity or lack thereof.

PLEASE READ THE PINNED POST

If you have screenshots and evidence of transphobic behaviour please put them in the google drive folder rather than offloading them straight into the group as it may otherwise be overwhelming and trans members should have the option to not have to look at upsetting comments.

Do not add anyone unless you are sure that they:

  1. Are a member of the Labour Party
  2. Believe the basis of gender is self-definition
  3. Think that transphobia is grounds for expulsion from the party
  4. Respect the autonomy of trans people to direct the fight against transphobia (I.e will not take decisions against the will of trans people)

If you are a trans and/or non binary person and you would like to be added to the secret group (trans/nb people only) please message lily madigan or aisling musson and we will add you.

Rules:

  • No advocacy for violence, threats of violence of other illegal acts (quite apart from the morality of it, please do not get this group shut down)
  • This is a not a discourse group. If you do not agree that transphobia is bad, that the Labour party has it and that we should fight it, this is not a group for you.
  • Be respectful. As far as possible, please always be friendly, respectful and comradely and treat others as you would wish to be treated.
-No members of other parties.
  • TERF is not a slur.
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AngryAttackKittens · 24/01/2018 16:56

Much like Lily's brother they went back in time just to cause problems for innocent helpless transwomen.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/01/2018 16:57

Someone on Tumblr pointed out that most of the names sound like elf strippers and now I can't unsee it.

againstvaw · 24/01/2018 16:57

Betsy M00 Thank you for that. Article says he was blind from birth. However he says "Living on my own—more times than not I looked a bit too orange really.” How did he know?

Also he says he walked into the sea up to his shoulders. Then turned around and came back. Quite difficult for a blind man to know where to turn in the sea. I suspect he's "legally blind" but has quite a lot of vision.

RedToothBrush · 24/01/2018 16:59

Jess Phillips is apparently 'Blairite' and worst still her political niche is as a committed feminist.

It matters not one fuck what she says about the GRA or trans people. She's already marked as an 'enemy'.

Battleax · 24/01/2018 16:59

Grin @ elf strippers. It is quite a unique mental image 😖

pamish · 24/01/2018 17:13

@against, lots of/most blind people have some vision. It's not blackout. So looking a bit orange is possible, just lacking in detail.

irretating · 24/01/2018 17:30

Would those be Santa's Workshop elf strippers, or more Lord of the Rings?

AngryAttackKittens · 24/01/2018 17:31

Identify as one but really more like the other?

Vicxy · 24/01/2018 17:34

"pretty obvious that the intention of the TERFs campaign of harassing Lily with transphobic hate is to go as far as to drive her to committing suicide, because the ultimate objective is to eliminate all trans people from the planet one by one if need be."
What the actual fuck...how deranged.

MaximumVolume · 24/01/2018 17:49

Empress thanks for the correction. I'm mixing up my Carolines. I blame broken sleep thanks, DS2.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 24/01/2018 18:00

Maximum, I'm sure they'll go after Caroline Lucas at some point.

twattymctwatterson · 24/01/2018 18:28

Wait, could I claim PIP if I identified as disabled? I could then call them bigots if they reject me! Hmm

BeyondWW · 24/01/2018 18:34

Maybe the DWP needs an influx of people doing exactly that, twatty...

Battleax · 24/01/2018 18:35

Wait, could I claim PIP if I identified as disabled? I could then call them bigots if they reject me!

Why not? Blue badge, carers, accessible theatre seats. Fill your boots.

I might even try it myself. Despite needing a blue badge, I can't actually get one yet because there needs to be an official medical agreement (between rheumatology and neurology) on whether the deadness of my legs is officially permanent or merely long term. This is taking months for no apparent reason.

I don't see why I should follow a process and muck about with application forms and fees if the TIMs don't have to. Yes I might regret it later when all the obvious bad consequences come about but let's live for now and live for ourselves eh?

Battleax · 24/01/2018 18:41

Oops. Sorry as you were. This is exactly (part of) why self ID makes me cross but I didn't mean to kill the thread BlushSad

TheCopyist · 24/01/2018 18:57

This was the Greens position at the last election. Everyone is insane

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/04/28/election-green-party-calls-for-trans-youth-to-have-right-to-change-gender-without-parental-consent/

Nineteenagain · 24/01/2018 19:04

having been born trans
Omfg

nauticant · 24/01/2018 19:05

Over the years I've been pointed to one position or another of the Greens which have been so clearly batshit I've resolved never to vote for them.

Nineteenagain · 24/01/2018 19:06

Everyone is insane
Except us of course!

MaximumVolume · 24/01/2018 19:07

Given today's Pink News article, is that a true reflection of their policy? (I'm clutching at straws!)

Whinberry · 24/01/2018 19:21

Just twigged why the SNP are pushing it... the Greens. They are a minority government and need the Greens vote. Wasn't it their council who were asking children signing up for nursery what gender they identified with and got rid of the word 'woman'?

Glitterypinksoap · 24/01/2018 19:32

because the ultimate objective is to eliminate all trans people from the planet one by one if need be

I so often see projection in this kind of ranting, it's what a bad tempered and hormonal thirteen year old would wail at you. Lundy Bancroft would nail this kind of dramatic flouncing very succinctly.

Maryz · 24/01/2018 19:35

Imagine if an under 16 year old went to a doctor and asked to be sterilised/have a vasectomy and cited Gillick competance and insisted they were sure they would never want children.

What would happen to a doctor who agreed to do the operation do you suppose?

As an aside, wtf is LGBTIQA+? It looks like a password gone wrong [sigh]

Holliewantstobehot · 24/01/2018 19:44

I don't understand why there can't be a trans only shortlist. What's wrong with being trans and proud of it. I think parliament should be as representative as possible. Unfortunately that seems to mean women who are already under represented making way while the men stay where they are. Plus ca change.....

In the meantime I am going to self identify as a bear and go back to bed until April.

LefkosiaTigers · 24/01/2018 19:44

Hello Maryz! Long time no see, good to see you.

I think there will be many healthcare professionals who will find themselves facing legal action in the future.

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