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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour Against Transphobia Facebook group

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NotTerfNorCis · 19/01/2018 17:40

Lily Madigan and Aisling Musson are asking for 'screenshots and evidence of transphobic behaviour' so they can make Labour 'a truly safe space for all members regardless of their gender identity or lack thereof.' In other words, doxxing people so they can be thrown out of the party for gender-critical views.

The group write-up is:

A group formed to oppose the rising tide of Transphobia in the UK Labour Party and to seek to make the Party a truly safe space for all members regardless of their gender identity or lack thereof.

PLEASE READ THE PINNED POST

If you have screenshots and evidence of transphobic behaviour please put them in the google drive folder rather than offloading them straight into the group as it may otherwise be overwhelming and trans members should have the option to not have to look at upsetting comments.

Do not add anyone unless you are sure that they:

  1. Are a member of the Labour Party
  2. Believe the basis of gender is self-definition
  3. Think that transphobia is grounds for expulsion from the party
  4. Respect the autonomy of trans people to direct the fight against transphobia (I.e will not take decisions against the will of trans people)

If you are a trans and/or non binary person and you would like to be added to the secret group (trans/nb people only) please message lily madigan or aisling musson and we will add you.

Rules:

  • No advocacy for violence, threats of violence of other illegal acts (quite apart from the morality of it, please do not get this group shut down)
  • This is a not a discourse group. If you do not agree that transphobia is bad, that the Labour party has it and that we should fight it, this is not a group for you.
  • Be respectful. As far as possible, please always be friendly, respectful and comradely and treat others as you would wish to be treated.
-No members of other parties.
  • TERF is not a slur.
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ladyballs · 24/01/2018 11:22

I voted labour at the last election. I'll never vote for them again.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 24/01/2018 11:22

Jeni Harvey / Gappy Tales tells it like it is on Medium: Does the Labour Party Really Hate Women?

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 24/01/2018 11:22

Thermostatpolice you're absolutely right - we should be thanking Mumsnet for allowing us the space to come together and discuss the issue.

Hammerofthetwat · 24/01/2018 11:49

Kittens, absolutely. The older ones are manipulating younger people. These kids don’t understand any of it really. It’s tragic. It’s just for them being in a gang, and feeling they re the good guys, Sadly it’s not that simple. Unlike sex, politics is not binary. Although, Iran situation is, and I’m livid Corbyn has said nothing. Nothing. I guess when he stands down, he wants to cash more checks from Iranian TV.

GuardianLions · 24/01/2018 11:53

Just catching up with the thread and someone shared this on twitter this morning that made me laugh

Popchyk · 24/01/2018 12:02

That really did make me laugh.

"Hey, what IPA do you have on tap?"

And "This is definitely the guy" to the black man talking to the cops. And the black man says "I called them".

Battleax · 24/01/2018 12:02

Yes MNHQ have been amazing ever since Spartacus.

RedToothBrush · 24/01/2018 12:07

Mn has kept me sane for more than one reason.

Battleax · 24/01/2018 12:07

That video 😄

Hammerofthetwat · 24/01/2018 12:07

Labour Against Transphobia meeting.

Labour Against Transphobia Facebook group
GuardianLions · 24/01/2018 12:11

popchyk I know Grin - I don't know how they managed to play it so straight and not burst into hysterics.

GuardianLions · 24/01/2018 12:12

Very apt pic hammer

GuardianLions · 24/01/2018 12:14

Also I love how he wants to go to the farmers market ha ha

genehuntswife · 24/01/2018 12:19

Just been thinking.. the next time a bloke starts grooming a young girl over the internet, you know the type ..says he’s a young girl like her ..named Delila, but is actually Uber hairy Trevor from Hull. Can he not be arrested now cos he itentifies as 14 year old Delila ?

bambambini · 24/01/2018 12:26

Seems Jess Phillips snd Caroline Flint might make the hit list. This is being shared on aa feminists against transphobia FB group.

sophiabotha.xyz/2018/01/23/labour-get-a-grip-with-your-transphobic-bigot-problem-part-2-attack-of-the-terfs/

Hammerofthetwat · 24/01/2018 12:35

I bet the purge will be hard and fast, funny they don’t move very quickly purging labour racists. They are frankly bonkers.

AstraiaLiberty · 24/01/2018 12:36

All this almost makes me wish I was a member of the Labour Party, just so I could be thrown out for stating facts. I was reading Twitter earlier and there were people arguing over the idea of transwomen menstruating. That should not be an argument.

Sometimes I wonder if the more extreme statements are a deliberate widening of the Overton Window. Years ago there might have been some opposition to the idea of transwomen with GRCs standing on all-women shortlists, because of their previous male socialisation, etc. Whatever your stance on that, it doesn't even get a look-in because we're all fire-fighting self-ID.

cromeyellow0 · 24/01/2018 12:45

Exactly, Hammerofthetwat. You should tweet that!

nauticant · 24/01/2018 12:45

The more they purge, the more of a bubble they'll become. No moderate voices will mean there'll be no one to question the more insane doctrines of the TRAs becoming accepted.

My sincere hope is that one day they'll look up from their reinforcement and self-congratulation and find the general public staring at them, appalled.

Beachcomber · 24/01/2018 12:46

Jeni Harvey is ace.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 24/01/2018 12:50

“Preaching transphobic hate” = donating to a crowdfunder campaign using my own name Hmm

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 24/01/2018 12:54

Changing the subject for a moment - how's Blue Bunny, Veta?

BeyondWW · 24/01/2018 12:54

”TERFs would in fact like to exterminate all trans people off the face of the planet”

On a scale of 0-hyperbole, that ones at about 1000% 🙄

AngryAttackKittens · 24/01/2018 12:55

I was reading Twitter earlier and there were people arguing over the idea of transwomen menstruating.

I always want to ask what they think menstruation is. Or PMS. Like, how can you be having cramps in organs that you do not in fact have? If you do not have ovaries and there is blood coming from your genital region then maybe you should talk to a doctor about that?

Hammerofthetwat · 24/01/2018 12:59

Beyond WW that is ridiculous. Utterly. We just want a debate, based on actual science, not 40 year old deconstructionists social constructualism Theory. I bloody hate Derrida.

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