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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man in Brighton exposes himself to children while wearing womens clothes claims athletes foot made him do it

229 replies

miri1985 · 15/12/2017 01:37

www.theargus.co.uk/news/15768693.Salesman_in_sports_bra_exposed_himself_in_children___s_play_area/

Don't worry this kind of thing never happens!

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Ereshkigal · 15/12/2017 16:34

Feel free to challenge any non presenting as female male looking person in the ladies, its NOT a crime to.

Point out where what "presenting as female" is defined as? I must have missed it. And tell that to the CPS who teamed up with Gender Intelligence to produce a hate crime schools pack on transphobic bullying where they specifically indicated this toilet challenge scenario constituted a hate crime.

Ereshkigal · 15/12/2017 16:36

Your posts are just not very good Debbie, therein lies the problem. You haven't helped anything.

MillicentFawcett · 15/12/2017 16:37

This is what’s going to happen in the UK if the proposed GRA amendment goes through: www.thegetrealmom.com/blog/womensrestroom

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/12/2017 16:37

Feel free to challenge any non presenting as female male looking person in the ladies, its NOT a crime to

Hmm, that describes me, and I'm female.

PrincePooPoo · 15/12/2017 16:41

if they are assaulted in the ladies by another woman the likely injury's (in the UK at least) are going to be less severe

Why would the injuries be less severe? There is no difference between a female and male body right? That's why the Olympics say TW can compete with women and why Fallon Fox beating the shit out of women in MMA is fine.

KennDodd · 15/12/2017 16:41

QOFE From page one.

Just to echo that this man is not trans.

I think we all agree on that.

I don't agree with it. What exactly makes somebody not trans if that's what they say they are? Next question (that we are rapidly heading towards) will be - What exactly makes somebody not a woman if that's what they say they are?

We need to just bin the ridiculous gender stereotypes and go back to the facts, that we have male and female.

MillicentFawcett · 15/12/2017 16:44

As far as I can see, not trans is just a line trotted out by people who say that real transwomen aren’t perverts and predators, paedophiles and rapists. Unfortunately as they offend at the same rate as men, this can’t be true.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/12/2017 16:47

YY, people are trans until they commit some sort of crime, when it becomes obvious that they are not, and were never trans.

KennDodd · 15/12/2017 16:48

Anybody else, biologically female, planing to change to male if this law is passed so that we can receive our 18% pay rise?

KennDodd · 15/12/2017 17:00

As for somebody identifying as trans or not, there is no objective measure. Whereas we do have a simple and objective measure (leaving intersex aside) to identify male and female.

PrincePooPoo · 15/12/2017 17:04

Beard, suit and tie in the ladies shouldn't be there, no one is going to be prosecuted for anything if they challenge that.

Sorry can I just point out that's not true?

Danielle Muscato was staying in a women's shelter before he "transitioned". And when I say transitioned I mean put on a dress and shaved his beard. When he literally looked like this. Rather than assume we're all anti LGBT despite what I believe to probably be a much higher than average lesbian and besexual population than average... why not listen?

Show of hands here, how many of you had a problem with transexuals in the toilets ten years ago?

I didn't.

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Battleax · 15/12/2017 17:06

Me neither prince.

SparklyUnicornTractors · 15/12/2017 17:07

Debbie, this is Danielle Muscato.

Muscato is currently living in a women's shelter and says that anyone who doesn't think women have penises can suck his dick. Two women who were uncomfortable and protested his presence were made to leave. By what you're saying, you'd say this chap was taking the mickey the same as I would, the trouble is that he names himself as trans and that's the end of it. He accesses women's spaces, at the cost of women, and threatens sexual violence to women who don't want to accommodate him.

Good luck with the cake.

Man in Brighton exposes himself to children while wearing womens clothes claims athletes foot made him do it
SparklyUnicornTractors · 15/12/2017 17:09

Cross post Prince , sorry

Thermostatpolice · 15/12/2017 17:59

Debbie thank you for sticking around. I'm grateful that you took the time to explain how you see things in a calm way rather than shriek at us and disappear. Which we see a lot of.

It's clear that you are a lot more trusting of human nature and the legal system than most of us. And that you have more confidence in women's abilities to weed out predatory men and assertiveness in confronting them than we do. Honestly, I hope very much that your take on the world is proved correct. But I see no evidence to support it.

If Christmas cake allows, let's continue the discussion.

some makeup tips and help with her hair would be nicer
Wh? I haven't worn makeup for over 20 years and would have no idea about how to help someone with their hair...

Thermostatpolice · 15/12/2017 18:00

*Why?

BarrackerBarmer · 15/12/2017 18:20

Debbie6666
I can't tell transwomen and men apart. I perceive them as the same.

How do you do it?

Datun · 15/12/2017 19:48

The trans narrative is massively steering away from ‘presenting as female means woman’. They are calling women out on ‘gender stereotypical clothing’ not being an indication of trans.

They are actively saying that a man (transwoman) who looks like a man is every bit as much of a woman as a woman in a floral frock.

Do you seriously think, the way things are going, that will be a good enough reason to call them out?

Travis (identifies as a 15-year-old girl and has a best friend who thinks little girls are kinky and deviant), doesn’t even identify as a woman!

He still took to Twitter and created a shit storm which resulted in top shop capitulating.

Misogynistic men are just that. They would like nothing more than walking to a toilet, in a donkey jacket and hobnail boots and claiming womanhood. And, technically, they would be right ffs.

What on earth makes you think, like all other laws to stop predictors/bullies, one based on sartorial preference is going to magically work???

Honestly, no wonder the GRA went through, if this is the naivete involved.

Which has resulted in cheating men beating women at sport, rapists going to female prisoners, 19-year-old adolescents representing women (but only those who support the trans-narrative, otherwise they are terfs and bigots and he won’t represent them).

At what point are people going to see this for what it is?

A men’s rights movement, claiming to represent a minuscule number of people. Most of whom thoroughly disagree.

Battleax · 15/12/2017 20:10

I think you just broke my brain Datun.

I've missed all mention of this Travis character and I can't even begin to make sense of;

Travis (identifies as a 15-year-old girl and has a best friend who thinks little girls are kinky and deviant), doesn’t even identify as a woman!

Datun · 15/12/2017 20:27

Battleax

Do an advanced search on here with the words Travis or top shop. All will be revealed.

Battleax · 15/12/2017 20:38

When I'm feeling strong, I will.

QOFE · 15/12/2017 21:22

Well he's not trans though is he Confused

He doesn't appear to have claimed he is for starters.

If he was trans then the whole story would be a bit different no? For starters it would refer to him as she throughout because heaven forbid we should misgender a grimy pervert Shock

Maryz · 15/12/2017 22:06

Travis seems to be non-binary.

Which means he has a right to go into the women's changing rooms on the days/times he is a woman, and do whatever the fuck he likes on the other days.

He called not being allowed to use the women's changing rooms transphobic so he must consider himself to be trans from a legal point of view?

Battleax · 15/12/2017 22:08

Thanks Datun.