Trans Widows escape committee

[TinselAngel]

This is a second attempt to start a thread for women who have been, or are still in unhappy relationships with Trans partners.

Having got out of a marriage to a man who transitioned shortly after we split, it would be good to be able to support others in a similar situation.

I know there's a few of you out there?

Just popping in the once and only to add my voice to others (because I understand where it's not appropriate for me to be):

This is a support thread. It is for women partners of AGP men. It is not for AGP men. And it is inappropriate for AGP men to post on it.

Leave the sisters alone to their conversations with each other.

Yep, I'm bowing out too, just wanted to offer to be the bouncer if the women this thread is actually for didn't feel up to dealing with yet another male with AGP pissing all over their boundaries.

Yes, just to add sorry about crashing your thread. What Lang said.

The post from the AGP has been deleted now, thank goodness.

@MsnotMrsjones RTFT, then come back and ask that question again if you still don't understand. Alternatively somebody who is less annoyed than I am at the moment, might be willing to explain.

Interesting use of 'your' instead of 'their'.
Very often they too busy finding themselves to bother with their children.

mrsjones

Its a support thread, if youre not in their situation its not really your place to comment

Im off like a dirty shirt

Apologies for the interruption

I am quite shocked at the header Trans Widows.
I know this is an old thread but why call yourself Widows, The definition of Widow a woman who has lost her spouse by death and has not married again.

i'm so sorry for crashing again (I really am) but what is it with people today? NotMrsJones it isn't offensive, the person they married no longer exists in a sense they are dead, they won't come back as that person making the wife feel widowed added to which they leave with large amounts of abuse which affect entire families and rewrite histories it is a death of sorts and as far as I can see they are often completely distanced from their former lives so are not there to participate in those events you mentioned. If you don't understand read the thread and educate yourself instead of coming onto a SUPPORT thread to be offended. This isn't AIBU.

TinselAngel just ignore, nobody here needs to justify this thread or the title of it.

Once again my apologies for coming on your thread.

@MsnotMrsjones

The term trans widows is not specific to this thread.

It's a well-known term. As there are quite a few of them. If you google it, you will see.

I'm sure you haven't read the thread. As I cannot imagine anyone having that reaction, having read it.

MsnotMrsjones
It's a very good way to describe how the old male person has died to be replaced by the new female personality. The old male personality IS dead in a very real way.

These men change everything about themselves, including their personality. A lot of these men, once they transition, want to believe the fantasy that they were always women. Hence the henious crime of deadnaming and misgendering.

A lot, if not the majority, discard their old wives, children and masculine life. They vanish from their previous loved ones. The old personality has been sucked up and consumed by the new female personality. They are definitely not there in any real way for their old wives and children.

A prime example of a trans widow for me to give you is a woman who was married to a trans woman called Stephonknee (Google if you have the stomach). This trans woman had a dozen children, but become unrecognisable to them after their transition.

Trans widow is a dramatic turn of phrase to underline how devastating it is being abandoned by a trans partner.

My heart goes out to any widow and no offence is meant. The pain of losing a loved one is the most horrendous thing.

Men are still not women. Hey ho

MsnotMrsjones

However you are still not Widows,

Would you like to comment on the content of the thread, by any chance?

Random MRA capitalization and baroque punctuation? Truly this thread is blessed today.

However you are still not Widows

And you are lacking in empathy but I'm sure it was vital you made your point again.

Empathy bypass kitty

Sorry my leaving didnt last because I honestly didnt think mrsjones would be so crass as to continue

Well their husbands insist on calling their birth name 'deadname', so trans widows is entirely appropriate.

And it's none of your fucking business. The can call themselves Lady Beelzebub or MsJoneshasVD and it's still none of your fucking business.

It's a support thread. Bog off.

However you are still not Widows

And a 'deadname' doesn't mean the person actually died but as long as spouses are insisting this is the case then these women can have fair use of the term widow.

What bum said

Can I just suggest that anyone concerned about the inappropriate behavior occurring on this thread report the offenders so HQ can take care of it? I'd hope that regardless of feelings on trans issues nobody there would want to see a support thread targeted for trolling.

Already done it angry

Msnotmrs, I'm a widow, my husband is dead and buried and everything. Widow can be used both as a factual description of marital status and as a metaphor for some kind of loss - hence 'golf widow' etc. The women on this thread are not offending me or anyone else through use of a metaphor which has additional meaning given the particular stories their ex-partners tell about their lIves.

Agreed Angry and I shouldn't have replied but it gave me the rage