Trans Widows escape committee

[TinselAngel]

This is a second attempt to start a thread for women who have been, or are still in unhappy relationships with Trans partners.

Having got out of a marriage to a man who transitioned shortly after we split, it would be good to be able to support others in a similar situation.

I know there's a few of you out there?

Interesting post, Orbital. Thank you for your honesty,

While I understand why you made it here, I would personally suggest you start another thread for people to ask you questions on, as this is really a space reserved just for transwidows/partners of transpeople, who sadly, don’t have many avenues for support outside of TG culture.

Like you, I wonder where the eccentric-but-accepted-crossdressers are now - I used to occasionally attend a local cross dresser support group as a guest of a platonic friend and while my friend is HSTS in Blanchard terms, the majority of the group were straight men who took their feminine alter egos out a couple of times a month, mostly with permission from their long term wives and partners (who were willing to accept it as long as they didn’t have to be a part of it).

Happy to engage more on another thread!

@Orbital0 thanks for your contribution, it is helpful for people reading this thread, who know nothing about this other than the newspeak ideology, to see that what we are describing DOES exist.

It's not just about betrayal within a relationship. It's about domestic abuse, about someone having an arousal response to role playing their interpretation of what I am.

It's about our husbands taking that fetish, their arousal into the public domain, lying about their motivations, having others act as unwitting and unwilling props in their sex game. In their humiliation fetish. In their power play.

It's about kids being sterilised, chemically damaged, because the same men are using these kids. Lying about the sexual motivation for their dressing, manipulating the kids and their parents. Allowing these kids to damage their bodies and minds, to as a human shield. These children and the gender feelings story are being used to mask the sex in this, to enable these individuals to continue their sexual games in public.

This is entirely abhorrent to me.

Where do you stand on this? Love and let love? Keep the sexy indoors and in honesty?

Or are you as angry about it as we are? That's the honesty I'm interested in, not whether you told your girlfriends about how you like to get an erection.

Betty is right, in my eyes anyway...

While I understand why you made it here, I would personally suggest you start another thread for people to ask you questions on, as this is really a space reserved just for transwidows/partners of transpeople, who sadly, don’t have many avenues for support outside of TG culture.

Orbital It's clear that you have the best of intentions, but this thread probably isn't the ideal place. Starting a new thread sounds like a good idea, as your contribution to the overall debate is valuable.

Inappropriate oversharing combined with attempts at manipulating the female audience into feeling like they can't complain about it is one of the hallmarks of AGP, in my experience.

@AngryAttackKittens exactly.

@AngryAttackKittens I thoroughly expect a "but that's not me" and an expectation from @Orbital0 that we would bond over their "goodness".

If you need any help dealing with him feel free to send out the batsignal! I made the cat's bum face reading that (much too long and far too detailed) comment.

@Orbital0 Please take your contribution to another thread. You may be as honest as the day is long, but the women on this thread, many (most) of whom have been abused by men with similar interests to you, do not need this rare safe space invaded and appropriated . They've (we've) had enough of that behaviour in their lives already.

There's a new "Ask me anything" section on this forum. I strongly suggest you head over there.

Orbital0, I'm sure your fetish is unpleasant for you at times. And there will be a lot of people who have genuine questions.

This is not the right thread for you to describe your fetish and invite questions.

This is a thread to support women who are married to, or divorced from men with AGP.

I know you say your fetish is all consuming, but please respect that.

As if we need our abuse mansplained back to us.

And nobody even asked Orbital to tell us more about how accepting his wife is of his introducing AGP into their sex life. Women are so mean.

We see you pal.

And as it has been for all the other sexually abusive men, who thought they were too clever or special for their behaviour to remain accepted. Men who imagine it is the other guys who are the bad, that exposure wouldn't happen to them. It will.

We see you, and we have gin ready for the rest when they catch up.

Shared LumaRX IPL hair remover.
Girlfriend/Partner helping man to feminise himself.
The only explanation AGP offers is "I was born this way, I cannot help it".

These are the points that screamed out to me that this AGP person might get a twinge of excitement/validation from sharing his condition with us.

There is likely to be no men whatsoever looking at this thread, only women. I'm not saying he will be sexually excited by sharing his fetish with a female only audience, but I do know my AGP partner would find it massively stimulating.

The sexuality angle is interesting. Gay/straight people seek other gay/straight people to have a mutual relationship with. Fetish isn't a sexuality it's a paraphilia. One that needs to be looked at by a professional councillor, so that it can be minimised to enable the person to have a respectful and healthy relationship with other humans.

Otherwise the person with a fetish has no right to enter into a relationship (unless purely consensually sexual) with another human as that person isn't seen as human - just a sexual prop. Nobody deserves their sex lives to be reduced solely as someone else's prop and toy.

@MightyMike yes, I thought there was probably a bit of hairy handed manipulating going on, laser treatment or no.

I think we can all testify as to how well our STBXHs have faired, when the truth is out.

Getting away from the fellow who kindly proved our point...anyone else noticed the public fatigue?

I might be optimistic, but it seems the chat is moving on to plastics.

Fashionable causes come and go, and my observation is that when the cause, be it refugees, women, homeless people, gay rights etc, act like the individuals they are, (some great, some not so), and not an idea for the public conscious to project the idea of victim on to. Then folk move on.

This is why animal charities are so universally popular. Animals don't speak.

STBXH is going to have to be very dramatic in order to stay relevant. I fear he's not going to take it well when he's the human equivalent of that lonely packet of quinoa at the back of the food cupboard.

Another one for the 'start your own thread' idea

This is a support thread

But as others have said different viewpoints are always listened to...on the correct thread

STBXH is going to have to be very dramatic in order to stay relevant. I fear he's not going to take it well when he's the human equivalent of that lonely packet of quinoa at the back of the food cupboard.

It's the worst fate possible for a narcissist, isn't it? Shame, that.

I’ve got a packet of quinoa just like that!

Might go throw it out now, a small action in honour of all the marvellous transwidows on this thread and beyond

I do wonder why Orbital felt he had to post rather than directing his wife here......very cynical about his motives as it seems fairly obvious this isn't the right place for his NAMALT theme - Not all of us men with AGP are narcissistic monsters he writes in very long thread all about him.

for all the trans widows.

• Post not thread. Sorry

I hope in his vanity he told his wife about how lucky she was to have him, and pointed her here in order to demonstrate his worth.

I doubt it though.

If she find us, or is lurking, then we will help you if you ever want/need.

If you need any help dealing with him feel free to send out the batsignal! I made the cat's bum face reading that (much too long and far too detailed) comment.

Me too. I wasn't going to post as I saw birdbandits excellent post. But I thought the placement of the post was extremely inappropriate since this thread is clearly for support of the women involved and I wonder if Orbital's wife's story would be the same ...

Apologies for crashing the thread, jut to say to you all. I read and silently (as this is your thread) support you all.

What kitty said

Ineedacupofteadesperately

Yes the irony of him telling his wife that this was who he is, it was a huge thing, he can't change, it will affect everything they do, followed by the denial of narcissism, wasn't lost on me either!!!!