Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 09:11

That's true. As amusing as the derail into us all being steampunk submarines has been, perhaps we can get back on topic now.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:12

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LemonJello · 13/10/2018 09:12

What do you want to get out of posting here Feminist4?

LemonJello · 13/10/2018 09:15

If your goal is to get us to subscribe to your belief system that’s never going to happen.

If your goal is to bump this very informative thread about how transwomen are more likely to murder than be murdered, may I congratulate you on a job well done!

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:16

I thought I would try to understand your arguments for excluding transgender women from safe spaces. But I realise that I can’t understand because the (inaccurate) data, the analysis and arguments are sickening.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:18

It’s really like being transported back to Hitler’s Germany. They used the biology argument too- and lots of bogus research.

LemonJello · 13/10/2018 09:20

So what are you now trying to get out of this thread now that you have come to those conclusions?

Datun · 13/10/2018 09:20

feminist

Can you link to the actual study. Because I can't see it in that report.

Incidentally, contributors to the report are GIRES, who claim transitioning cures autism and Mermaids, who recommend parents use a doctor who has been convicted of running an unlicensed surgery and illegally giving drugs to children.

Their description of what constitutes transgender also includes virtually everyone on the planet:

Transgender: broad term for those who do not conform to typical societal gender roles, identities, behaviours and dress. This includes those who cross dress, people who wear a mix of clothing, people who perform dressed in drag, people with a dual or no gender identity, and transsexual people.

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LemonJello · 13/10/2018 09:21

And seeing as that’s not going to happen, what do you want now?

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Datun · 13/10/2018 09:23

Why do you accept that you would be a man? Because it will never happen to you

Waking up in the body of the opposite sex isn't going to happen to anyone.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:24

LemonJello, I’m touched by your concern for what I want. I want to make sure that transgender people know you are a small minority and they have many women who support them against your hideous campaign.

Datun · 13/10/2018 09:24

Contrary to what you think feminist, I do care about suicide of transgender people, Particularly children.

I disagree that should be used as a reason for women to forego their boundaries.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 13/10/2018 09:24

Can't we just let it burn itself out?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:25

Luddite attitude

Datun · 13/10/2018 09:26

My personal view is that whack-a-mole with this one really isn't worth it.

No, you're right. But I'm not really talking to this person.

LemonJello · 13/10/2018 09:27

You mistake my curiosity for concern.

I’m just interested as to why you’re still posting.

Pink news doesn’t think we are a minority btw. Leas than 20% support your belief system.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:27

Datun. If you really cared you would think about the damage you are doing.

Datun · 13/10/2018 09:27

Fortunately, this person isn't only talking to me or this thread.

I personally always find it best to let people answer questions, or put their point of view across. It's far more informative than anything I could ever say.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 09:27

Feminist4

You make me ashamed to be a woman

Lol. Ashamed to be a What? What's a woman? How womany are you anyway?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 13/10/2018 09:29

No, you're right. But I'm not really talking to this person

I get that - but do you really think that lurkers will have the intestinal fortitude to follow this one? I get it when the poster is rational and engages to some degree, but in this case...

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 13/10/2018 09:29

Can't we just let it burn itself out?

Seriously. Remember the saying: don't get in the mud with a pig; you'll only get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 09:29

I personally always find it best to let people answer questions, or put their point of view across. It's far more informative than anything I could ever say.

Indeed, especially when they say things like this.

How to get you locked up.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 09:29

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/

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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

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