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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO

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ALittleBitOfButter · 20/09/2017 22:35

I'm choking on my porridge. This Trans Health manifesto is...just...gosh.

I've only skim read it but they don't seem to have included Female Genital Mutilation on their list of bad things done to bodies. Interesting!

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/09/20/trans-health-manifesto/#more-10439

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GardenGeek · 21/09/2017 00:21

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WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 21/09/2017 00:25

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore

tygr · 21/09/2017 00:25

We demand medical training to enable us to safely carry out medical procedures & research for each other

Not sure anyone is stopping this. Isn't that called going to medical school?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/09/2017 00:32

Absolute raving madness, every last word of it

Isn't it just?

tygr's post made me snigger.

MaximilianNero · 21/09/2017 00:34

These are all very knee jerk 'terfy' responses to what is a very modest and humble list of asks. It's important to interrogate the origins of your empathy based phobia of rapists/murderers! A careful examination of your inbuilt prejudice against transformative violence and research grants, followed by a reread of this glorious manifesto, will surely change your minds.

Polly is right though, it would definitely benefit from free kittens.

PollyBanana · 21/09/2017 00:50

Actually, I'm not sure about the kitten thing.
It might seem to be puppyphobic

TheWeeWitch · 21/09/2017 01:08

Christ on a fucking plane.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/09/2017 01:19

Is this really real?

Pivoine · 21/09/2017 01:22

Cunts.

ALittleBitOfButter · 21/09/2017 02:41

Perhaps it isn't real. We have been taken in before. But the cultish burning righteousness is in line with their views on punching women.

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Italiangreyhound · 21/09/2017 04:02

"We demand hormones & blockers are made available over-the-counter and by free prescription upon request. We need free, universal access to safe hormones & blockers at any age, the opportunity to decide our own doses, and universally accessible information on the safety & efficacy of different regimens. We are already taking hormones in this way, so this demand is simply that the danger of doing so is effectively mitigated"

But if they are going to decide their own doses, how will they know it is safe.

Blockers are not necessarily safe!

khn.org/news/women-fear-drug-they-used-to-halt-puberty-led-to-health-problems/

theaveragewife · 21/09/2017 04:30

Local anaesthetic for hair removal!! Grin

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 21/09/2017 06:10

We will have full, historical accountability for the abuses perpetuated against us in the name of ‘healthcare'.

This part made me think of kids like Jazz Jennings. I hope they do get full accountability for what's been done to them. Although that's the exact opposite of what this tranifesto's thinking of.

Cooroo · 21/09/2017 06:18

The comments were great though. I liked this one:

“We want things and we want them now and for free and also give us your things and DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO MOM”

pigeondujour · 21/09/2017 06:38

We demand the right to multiple surgeries, including reversal of previous surgeries if desired, so that we do not have to fear regret.

Oh right. Hmm

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 21/09/2017 06:46

they don't seem to have included Female Genital Mutilation on their list of bad things done to bodies. Interesting!

They can't - surgeons are already very carefully walking a line when just doing repair work, let alone re-modelling someone's vulva into a faux penis. Because it's a cultural practise, it's had to be outright banned, as getting a girl and her parents to tell a court that she wanted it done would't be a problem.

Perhaps the only sensible thing in the manifesto!

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 21/09/2017 06:51

We demand an end to capitalist & colonialist “medicine”.

Then on the very next line:

We demand hormones & blockers are made available over-the-counter and by free prescription

Who do they think makes these hormones and blockers?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 21/09/2017 06:53

I demand the right to go into other people's houses, eat all their porridge and sleep in their beds. And I will get it, you see if I don't! And if you you horrid people don't let me do that I'll scream and scream and scream until I'm sick.

'We do not consider that our work will ever be complete, there will always be greater things on the horizon'

In other words, they have no final objective, and as soon as we concede to one set of demands they'll come up with some more.

Elanetical · 21/09/2017 06:55

Free access to these services on the NHS is being taken quite seriously by Public Health England. Fill in the consultation if you don't agree.

www.engage.england.nhs.uk/survey/gender-identity-services-for-adults/

ChattyLion · 21/09/2017 07:07

Yes I wondered if this er 'manifesto' has been written as that group's submission to the NHS consultation which Elan has linked to above. Which is 100% serious and is intended to guide NHS funding policy and services for trans adults.

badbadhusky · 21/09/2017 07:12

I thought you were all being unkind about that manifesto. However, having read it, it's fucking bonkers. I don't even know where to begin, but it's very me, me, me - greedy for resources, education (medical training ffs!) and medical procedures which there are whole other populations with serious medical needs for similar procedures that aren't being met. The resources of our NHS are finite and I have no problem with trained medics gate-keeping.

daisygirlmac · 21/09/2017 07:14

I can't get on it for some reason

TheWeeWitch · 21/09/2017 07:25

It’s real. Here’s a link to the ATH Edinburgh Tumblr page where it is posted in full -

edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto#notes

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