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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO

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ALittleBitOfButter · 20/09/2017 22:35

I'm choking on my porridge. This Trans Health manifesto is...just...gosh.

I've only skim read it but they don't seem to have included Female Genital Mutilation on their list of bad things done to bodies. Interesting!

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/09/20/trans-health-manifesto/#more-10439

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Tinycitrus · 21/09/2017 13:07

Tut tut

Men have periods too you know..
(Flowers for your daughter)

Lancelottie · 21/09/2017 13:19

Thanks for the flowers! I've applied emergency Kitkats and hugs.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 21/09/2017 13:30

Lancelottie

I always had v painful periods. 600mg of ibuprofen at very first tinge of pain would often worked for me. You need to check that dose for a teen though

Lancelottie · 21/09/2017 13:41

Thanks, she's trying 400 mg today (inhaler at the ready, as it can be counter-indicated for asthmatics). School won't allow painkillers to be brought in unless on prescription, which doesn't help.

Didn't mean to derail.

HornyTortoise · 21/09/2017 13:42

Wish we could damn well stop performing periods. I've just dropped a weeping DD1 back to school after another fruitless GP appointment about her quite severe period pain (to which the attitude from school and GP seems to be 'you're a teenage girl, what do you expect?').

Is it any wonder so many young women feel opting out of puberty is an attractive option with GPs taking this attitude really

This is ignoring the fact that most teenagers fullstop, regardless of sex are uncomfortable with puberty to start with

SentimentalLentil · 21/09/2017 14:07

I'm reading about the social construction of biological sex and I'm getting so mad!!!

Of course there's a real difference between men and women, we have babies and the argument that this enforces heteronormity is insane. Even if we all lived in same sex partnerships or in mixed sex communes or lived in a beehive it would always be up to the women to bleed, breed and feed.

Urrrrghhh

LaContessaDiPlump · 21/09/2017 14:24

Gosh. I performed a period last week and never even realised. Am a natural, clearly.

PoppyPopcorn · 21/09/2017 14:29

I don't perform periods any more. I had a large fibroid removed, along with uterus and cervix.

Does that mean I'm not a woman any more? Where do I sign up for my waxing?

DJBaggySmalls · 21/09/2017 15:03

Apologies if this has already been said, but has everyone heard of Poes Law?
''Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views.''

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

The Action for Trans Health page has a breathtaking post, considering what was said after events at Speakers Corner. They include photos of all the people invilved.

actionfortranshealth.org.uk/

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STATEMENT ON HOMO/TRANSPHOBIA AND POLICE VIOLENCE AT PRIDE SHEFFIELD 29/07/2017
Posted 9 August 2017 by ATH Team & filed under ACAB, pride, prison industrial complex.

At Pride Sheffield 2016, members of the Potter’s House Church evangelical cult arrived preaching homo- and transphobic hate only to be driven off-site by a united LGBTQ community – despite threats of arrest from police officers protecting the cult members. This year the cult returned in smaller numbers but were defended by more police who this time went as far as assaulting an Action for Trans Health member who was being harassed by a cult member.

A dyke couple were walking across the field towards T’Other Stage at Pride Sheffield 2017 when they were disturbed by a man from Potters House Church standing on the field by the entrance, speaking through an amplifier, telling people at Pride that they were sinners and needed to change their ways. Three police officers were positioned around the cult member with their backs towards him in a protective formation.

A group of seven non-binary trans people and lesbians walked over together and the cult member directed his words towards them, saying he was praying especially hard for “this particular group of people” to change their ways. He went on to say that LGBTQ people were “the way you are” because of abusive upbringings and that LGBTQ ways of life were abusive themselves. More LGBTQ people joined the crowd, cheering as a lesbian couple kissed next to the homophobe. The cult member outstretched his hand towards the couple, praying for them to convert to a heterosexual Christian lifestyle, at which point one of the dykes turned around and unplugged his microphone.

A large police officer, badge number 401, immediately rushed over and grabbed the non-binary dyke by both wrists, squeezing hard and causing one of their fingers to bleed. Five more officers crowded around while the officer gripped onto the dyke’s wrists until they managed to break free and began filming on their phone. None of the officers showed the same aggression towards the cult member who had been projecting his homophobic, transphobic harassment over a loudspeaker. Several of them repeated that “he has the right to express his views” but LGBTQ people protesting would be arrested for breach of the peace if they did not move on.

A woman got out her phone, announcing, “telling us to move on is not solving the problem, it’s pretending the problem hasn’t existed. I’m currently recording this as a hate crime.” A man called Darren identified himself as the event manager and tried to discourage her from doing so, along with a blonde haired police officer, whose badge number was not visible, who replied, “you don’t have to, you don’t have to listen to it.”

Darren spoke to the crowd of gathered LGBTQ people, encouraging them to “go into the event and enjoy the day. Ignore this man. Ignore him. We had 20 people turn up last year” – referring to when Potter’s House Church turned up at Pride Sheffield 2016 but were forced off-site by the LGBTQ community working together in solidarity. When the crowd responded that “one is too many” and “I don’t wanna be told I gotta change by any one person”, Darren replied, “we will always have hatred”, becoming frustrated, finishing, “if you want to possibly be arrested and ruin our day, go ahead” and walking away. A group of LGBTQ young people rushed up, checked if people were ok and congratulated the non-binary dyke for unplugging the hate preacher’s microphone, showing far more care for their community than Pride organisers or the smug bystander pontificating about free speech had.

That the police are not here to protect the LGBTQ community should go without saying by now but their escalating tactics show cause for concern. The LGBTQ community showed our ability to defend ourselves against homophobes and transphobes last year, despite police attempts to facilitate uninterrupted hate speech. Although they were disinvited by Pride organisers because of their homophobic and transphobic behaviour, this year police multiplied their numbers, displayed their eagerness to physically harm LGBTQ people and even brought two armed officers. The claim was that these two officers were there in case of terror attacks but the only violence towards people at Pride was coming from police. The two armed officers were preoccupied with showing off their cars to small children; the only purpose of them being there was to normalise the militarisation of the police. Their presence made some LGBTQ people feel so unsafe they left the event which was supposed to be for them.

Police don’t make people safe from transphobia and homophobia, it’s up to us to look out for each other. The police have a monopoly on violence which they use with most force against those in our community who are poor, black, disabled and people of colour. LGBTQ people who defend ourselves from oppression are faced with further violence and incarceration.

No pride in police, no police in pride!

TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO
nauticant · 21/09/2017 15:47

Tricky things, cults.

Datun · 21/09/2017 16:05

Lancelottie

I had excruciating period pains. A day of school once a month.

Paracodal was the only thing that worked. Elephant tablets, my mum called them (they were huge).

I also read that if you take a regular dose of normal paracetamol before the pain starts, it can stop it coming. Although that will depend on you knowing all the right signals that your body gives. ( just blood, in my case, so it was pretty easy).

And lastly, if it's really disabling, tell her to get in the bath. Fill the bath over her stomach. I spent an entire day in the swimming pool on holiday once because of that. It was really effective.

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2017 16:22

Oh yes, I got my painful period the day before a spa day earlier this year, and I almost dropped out but I went and it was so lovely to sit in the hot tub (with highest absorbency tampax obviously).

hiddenmnetter · 21/09/2017 16:31

That manifesto is hilarious...well guess that's what state subsidised healthcare ends up as!!!

Lancelottie · 21/09/2017 16:45

Thanks, Datun, that's the same thing as Cocodamol, isn't it? I've booked yet another GP appointment (different GP) for two weeks' time and will ask about that. Have to be a bit careful with codeine products.

Yes, it's pretty disabling. It seems to come in quite ferocious waves and has her doubled up squeaking. Frankly, if you saw it on TV you'd assume they were portraying labour pains.

I've sent her to have a bath, with hot chocolate and promises not to nag about homework.

(I'll stop apologising for derailing as this has been really helpful!)

DJBaggySmalls · 21/09/2017 16:46

hiddenmnetter What a strange comment. What is 'state subsidised' healthcare, do you mean free to access healthcare? You know its paid for by taxes? What makes you think the NHS is run by people on the street?

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2017 16:49

Poor love Flowers I fully sympathise with your DD Lancelottie!

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 21/09/2017 17:08

Labour pains were pretty close to my monthly pains actually. But I obviously couldn't take the ibuprofen. (I can't take co-codamol, it makes me vomit)

A female doctor told me that the best way to relieve period pains was to have a baby. I was 16. It makes me mad that girls and women have to suffer still

Elanetical · 21/09/2017 17:32

Hey, I'm performing a period too! Also a natural. Grin Although to be honest, I am choosing to identify as non-binary (since I gather that means I think gender is bollocks, which I do). I'm not sure if I'm successfully performing non-binary though... it's a minefield.

Lance, has she tried naproxen? It works so much better for my period pain than NSAIDs or paracetamol.

garibaldi88 · 21/09/2017 17:39

Lancelottie the only thing that helped my period pain was mefenamic acid (ponstan). You can get it over the counter, but would need to check with pharmacist whether it's ok for a teen. www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/aches-and-pains/a7366/ponstan-mefenamic-acid/

LaContessaDiPlump · 21/09/2017 17:42

Lancelottie they used to sell ibuprofen under the brand name 'Brufen' in the country I grew up in, in tabs of 600 mg. I still remember the day (aged 16) that I took two at once and was really woozy for a few hours Confused

I was in absolutely no pain, mind you!!

LaContessaDiPlump · 21/09/2017 17:43

Is it terribly subversive that this thread has degenerated into CIS women discussing their periods? Is it a hate crime? I really don't know any more....

gingergenius · 21/09/2017 17:47

WTAF!!!!!!??????

cafeaulaitpourvous · 21/09/2017 17:47

Yes - don’t you know you are literally killing trans women with your cis-privilege talk about periods?

😉

LaContessaDiPlump · 21/09/2017 17:48

I know, cafe. I feel just sick about it.

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2017 17:50

I'm surprised that they didn't put that on the manifesto -"ciswomen will not be permitted to discuss their uteruses, ovaries, vaginas or vulvas or any body processes or occurrences relating to the same"