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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender ID bill - Gender Critical To Do List

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BetsyM00 · 02/08/2017 16:48

There seems to be quite a few of us with concerns about the proposed bill and who want to take some steps to voice opposition to it. I've pulled together some pertinent info and compiled a To Do List from threads on here, and elsewhere.

Please join in with any other suggestions.

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BetsyM00 · 16/10/2017 14:33

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QuarksandLeptons · 16/10/2017 16:05

Thanks Betsy!

PlonitbatPlonit · 17/10/2017 10:42

Betsy, I've messaged you - please read your messages.

ArcheryAnnie · 23/10/2017 19:31

...I've just pressed "send" on an email asking for a meeting with my MP about this.

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Rumandraisin1 · 23/10/2017 21:49

Well done ArcheryAnnie Let us know how it goes.

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Datun · 24/10/2017 10:00

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Kvinne · 24/10/2017 10:52

@BetsyM00 pm

QuarksandLeptons · 24/10/2017 22:46

I’ve had a response to my letter to Justine Greening.

It doesn’t address any of my points and only makes a tiny reference to not destroying women’s rights by saying:

“This should not mean that there is a hierarchy of equality”

Lots about children, which seems worrying.

Dear Quarks,

Thank you for your email of 2nd October to Justine Greening. I have been asked to respond on her behalf.

In the Government response to the Women and Equalities Select Committee report into transgender equality, we committed to reviewing the Gender Recognition Act in order to de-medicalise and streamline it.

We have completed an initial internal review and we are convinced of the need to reform the Act. We are now committing to publish a formal, government consultation document later in 2017.

Attaining quick, accessible and transparent legal gender recognition helps transgender people live more comfortably and free from stigma and discrimination. This should not mean that there is a hierarchy of equality: we want all people to be safe, healthy and happy, irrespective of their gender identity.

We will consult widely on the detail of proposals to change legislation and this will include with women’s groups.

Many trans people find the current focus on medical checks in the gender recognition process very intrusive and stigmatising. That is why we are moving to a system that works better for trans people. In line with our commitment, we will streamline and de-medicalise the Gender Recognition Act.

As a person’s gender has important legal and social consequences, we will consider carefully the impact of self-declaration in our policy development and we will consult widely on proposals to reduce medical evidence requirements.

It is important that all children are supported, including those who identify as transgender or who are gender-questioning.

Children at any age may not conform to their gender stereotype. It is only in working with gender identity services that a diagnosis of gender dysphoria be given. Trained professionals will help families to make decisions regarding the timing and process of any gender role changes for their young children.

Each case should be judged on the basis of its individual circumstances. It is for parents to explore and make decisions with their children and school, and with other services, as appropriate.

Thank you again for your email, and I hope this response addresses your concerns.

Yours sincerely

Government Equalities Office

ArcheryAnnie · 24/10/2017 22:48

Well, that's a heap of cut-and-paste absolute nonsense, isn't it?

AveEldon · 09/11/2017 19:16

I finally heard back from my MP

Her reply was lengthy but in summary

  • Labour is better for women,
  • no one is going to change gender lightly (ignoring violent men in prison who seem quite keen on the idea)
  • her final line: "fighting for the rights of women means fighting for all women, including those women who may have been given another classification at birth."
Thelilywhite · 09/11/2017 19:22

FFS thats pathetic!

Ereshkigal · 09/11/2017 19:32

What an idiot!

ArcheryAnnie · 10/11/2017 09:08

Ave that's really disappointing.

I think we need a thread on which we all namechange, just for that thread, to something very similar to each other (eg "constituentABC* constituentBCD etc) and post responses from specific MPs, good and bad. (Or maybe even just the bad, as we need to be a bit careful about the good responses, because we don't want them targetted by people telling them to die in a fire.)

AveEldon · 10/11/2017 15:20

Yes I think a name change thread would be a good idea

Ereshkigal · 10/11/2017 15:31

That's a great idea.

BetsyM00 · 13/11/2017 16:47

Just bringing all the 'to do' things into one thread.

There's an Early Day Motion supporting transgender law changes that 33 MPs currently support. Worth checking if your MP is on the list and, if so, think about writing or arranging to meet to discuss the issues.
www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/commons/early-day-motions/edm-detail1/?edmnumber=355&session=2017-19
Discussion thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3064134-Early-Day-Motion-re-Gender-ID-Bill

Contact your MP: www.writetothem.com/
As well as earlier in this thread, examples of letters are on:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2879137-Open-Letters-to-Our-MPs-on-the-Gender-Identity-Bill

Good idea to include the SAGES factsheet: sages.org.uk/
Also links to Stephanie Davies-Arai's speech:
www.transgendertrend.com/transgender-law-concerns/
or any of Janice Turner's articles for the Times:
Meet Alex Bertie the transgender poster boy
Children sacrificed to appease trans lobby
Transition period

James Caspian's proposal to research transgender detransitioners was turned down by Bath University because it was 'politically incorrect'.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41384473
His speech from the House of Commons meeting last month is here:
www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/James-Caspian-talk.pdf
If you'd like to contribute, he is legally challenging this decision and has a crowd funding page:
www.crowdjustice.com/case/uphold-freedom-of-speech-in-our-universities/

transgendertrend.com are attending a conference 'Autism and Gender Identity' in January.
twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/929784789208649729
If you'd like to donate towards the costs, see their webpage.

Linda Bellos & Helen Steel are speaking at Cambridge on 23 Nov. Tickets are fee from:
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-on-the-platform-tickets-39588207394
Discussion thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3079075-Meeting-in-Cambridge-with-Linda-Bellos-and-Helen-Steel

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BetsyM00 · 13/11/2017 16:47

Scotland

Review of the Gender Recognition Act 2004 has now been published:
consult.gov.scot/family-law/review-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004/
Closing date 01 Mar 2018
Seems to be open to everyone, not just Scotland, so please give your views.
Worth noting that the Equality Act & data protection (of a person's trans status) are still reserved matters for Westminster.
Discussion thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3082434-Scottish-Government-Review-of-Gender-recognition-act-2004-consultation-now-open

New guidance for supporting transgender people for schools has also just been issued:
www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/files/documents/Supporting_Transgender_Young_People_-_Digital_version.pdf
You might want to challenge your local school on this as well as refer the matter to the Equality & Human Rights Commission for failure to have due regard to the protected characteristic of sex. See morningrunner's posts on the discussion thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3081729-Trans-guidelines-for-schools-in-Scotland

Please also write to MSPs. Guidance is in the post above and my letter is on the above discussion thread. I've yet to hear back from any but would love to hear what responses we all receive.

Finally, there is a 'We Need to Talk about the GRA' meeting in Glasgow on 10 Jan 2018. Tickets are from £6 from: www.eventbrite.com/e/we-need-to-talk-about-the-gra-glasgow-tickets-39786635899?
Discussion thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3084291-We-need-to-talk-about-the-GRA-Glasgow

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Thelilywhite · 13/11/2017 18:15

Thanks Betsymoo

Ereshkigal · 13/11/2017 18:26

Yes, thanks Betsy!

BetsyM00 · 13/11/2017 19:00

You're welcome. None of it is news to anyone here, but the info is all over the threads and will soon slide down the pages, so I think it's good to gather the important stuff together for easy reference.

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Thelilywhite · 13/11/2017 20:26

Agreed

woman11017 · 13/11/2017 21:04

Thank you,BetsyM00 your list is such a useful source. And this?
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=CKTaAw4k3s0

woman11017 · 13/11/2017 21:05

Doesn't look encouraging from the picture, but it's another great Magdalen Berns film^

BetsyM00 · 20/11/2017 16:08

Poll on LBC's twitter "Should trans women be in female prisons regardless of their crime, even if that includes sexual assault?"

twitter.com/LBC/status/932629440017915904?s=17

Closes 3pm tomorrow.

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