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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans Reaction to the Women's March

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Twogoats · 23/01/2017 21:27

Www.storify.com/katanaoflogic/trans-activists-womens-March

The link is a big collection of how many trans activists responded to the women's March.

I must admit, I've had a good chuckle at some of these!

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noeffingidea · 24/01/2017 08:31

Lol, this is funny.
A bunch of narcissists are suddenly confronted with the fact that it's not always about them.
Funny, and oh so predictable.

amispartacus · 24/01/2017 08:33

A colleague of mine is, in the words of trans activists, a TERF, she spoke about her opinions on the matter of trans excluding women, on Twitter in 2015 and was called out for having committed an "act of violence", threatened with swatting and doxing and had her employer phoned to report her

That's awful - and speaking up is a worry as nowadays your business, friends is all online. I've had some awful comments when I speak up about what some TAs say - and I worry because my business is online and I worry about repercussions.

Speaking up is really hard but is also really important.

noeffingidea · 24/01/2017 08:35

Eatspam it could be. I'm not on social media but I do read it. I think tumblr tends to be a transactivist zone. Twitter is too big to be taken over by one small group, IMO.
Well done to your boss, it's people like that who can push back.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 24/01/2017 08:52

Speaking up is important but, selfishly I won't because if I lose my job I have a rabble of children who won't have food/clothes/transport.

This makes me so angry.

noeffingidea · 24/01/2017 09:07

Eatspam but that is a reality for some people.
Those who are afraid to speak up can at least refuse to engage. Ignoring a narcissist really hits them where it hurts.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 24/01/2017 09:11

I would guess it was a huge shock to transactivists to see women going back to talking about their own biology. With the growing threats to abortion rights etc, I'm wondering if women will gradually just see trans rights as less of a priority?

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 24/01/2017 09:27

Angry Aaargh. You know what, fuck transactivists. It's not fucking about you. Womens and trans rights could have coexisted beautifully but no once again fucking men wanting a bigger piece of the pie just steamroll over us. We have been oppressed for thousands of years because of what's between our legs, not how we feel inside. I'm sick to fucking death of not being able to speak out for fear of being called a terf or "literally killing" trans people. The part of me that would be all for trans rights dies a little bit every time I see shit like this. I repeat:

IT ISNT FUCKING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FEELS

And breathe. Sorry for the rant but like others I can't say this stuff in real life.

Thanks for the peachy yogurt link too. She's fantastic.

noeffingidea · 24/01/2017 09:43

Empress many (probably the vast majority of) women never did see trans rights as a priority.
Many people aren't on social media, aren't aware of these issues and work in places where it isn't really an issue.
Thats called the real world, and its why this particular group of transactivists got a big shock. They had to step out into the real world, where no one gives a fuck if they're 'triggered'.
I know the daily mail is hated on here (usually for good reason) but the comment section is nearer to mainstream opinion, and most people on there don't buy the transactivist position, and aren't afraid to say so.

Willow2016 · 24/01/2017 09:51

Oh my, thats them told then.

Women actually being women and talking about womens rights (although the whole march thing was a bit of a raggle taggle of groups with their own agendas) and standing up against male sterotypical views, misogyny, for autonomony over their own bodies etc... how very dare they.

Thanks TA for putting us all back in our place where we belong, which is apparently below men, then below pre-trasnition trans, oh but we are also below post transition trans who apparently are more womenly than we are..now we know we will respond in the appropriate manner....FTFO

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 24/01/2017 10:05

Those people are very odd.

CoteDAzur · 24/01/2017 10:57

They sound terribly upset with their vagina envy. They should try fucking off a bit.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/01/2017 11:20

just proves the point they have no idea what it is like being a girl/woman

its all just an idea of what it feels like

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/01/2017 11:31

It feels so Victorian to me, all this distress over the mention of uteruses. (The reasoning might be different on the surface but the effect is the same.)
Though on the bright side, it reminds me of that Victoria Wood sketch where a middle aged woman goes to see Macbeth and is upset because it mentions wombs.

MercyMyJewels · 24/01/2017 11:35

Great article re the Women's March and the TRA reaction

The Women's March

MercyMyJewels · 24/01/2017 11:35

Great article re the Women's March and the TRA reaction

The Women's March

MorrisZapp · 24/01/2017 11:36

'three pounds a choc ice and someone said womb'

HoneyDragon · 24/01/2017 11:43

Do the more strongly minded transactivists not eat eggs on principle do you think?

Or do omelettes suit them so that's ok?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/01/2017 12:06

Morris, that needs to become a meme.

DiggoryDiggoryDelvet · 24/01/2017 12:08

All the transwomen I know marched and were 100% supportive of the marches.

The individuals in the link are a tiny minority and don't represent the trans community as a whole.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 24/01/2017 12:23

Honey Grin

Diggory, the problem is that it's the minority who are making the noise and getting the attention of politicians.

QueSera · 24/01/2017 12:54

Mercy thanks for that article - i had no idea that i am so out of touch and old-fashioned that i didnt know that i mustnt call myself a woman anymore, instead i have to say im a 'non-man' !!! Confused

TheFilthiestPersonAlive · 24/01/2017 12:57

I have a FB friend who is a trans activist (he's not trans himself). He posted something saying "please don't make feminism about genitalia".

A transwoman posted under his comment saying that she thought women marching for their reproductive and biological rights was fair enough and she didn't feel "othered" by it. And he actually mansplained to her and told her she was wrong and why!

venusinscorpio · 24/01/2017 13:03

Again, that's why men can't be feminists. I'd rather a reasonable, woman respecting transwoman took part in it than a self important SJW male. Fuck the fuck off.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 24/01/2017 14:46

mercy great article

morris great quote

Grin
deydododatdodontdeydo · 24/01/2017 15:59

Womens and trans rights could have coexisted beautifully but no once again fucking men wanting a bigger piece of the pie just steamroll over us.

As noeffingidea hinted at, I don't think these kind of views get a lot of support from men either.
Outside of the internet, in the real world, which men (cis-men if you like) are pushing for trans women to steamroller women?

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