Jack Monroe

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Welcome back Jack

She thinks she's Mother Theresa, doesn't she? Or at the very least has a vastly overinflated ego and sense of her own importance in the world. What's ALMOST as bad is some posters falling over each other to tell her how amazing she is.

Jack, you're amazing, Jack is so pretty, Jack is so brave, Jack is so articulate, and ground breaking, and the best thing since sliced bread. It's just like a bunch of 11 year olds trying to ingratiate themselves with the person who thinks she's the Cool Girl.

I like Jack. As she's on here I'll be polite and say, Jack, I like you.

From a feminists stand point I think Jack is representative of a generation who probably do feel generally a bit fucked up about gender and their place in it. I also think that some of us cranky old feminists had high expectations of ourselves and our peers as that was the only way to get people to listen ..... and now with the boom in social media we place expectations on those with a voice. We cannot expect everyone to break the glass ceiling, and we certainly can't put them in box of our making and expect them to do it.

And also, if we're having issues with the fact an individual can come across differently on other social media platforms, and that leads to the conclusion they are misrepresenting themselves, then get this.....

I HUN ON FACEBOOK. That's right people, I'm a prolific hunner. I've even been known to hunni. Oh yes. And I still manage to Mumsnet correctly too.

Tinfoil I'm impressed with your mind reading skills. You should work for MI5.

I used to think she was great but her social media posts ATM are bordering on narcissism.

Also, I'll tell you one other thing I don't understand. I thought she was quite close to her family. Why, when she had no electricity and no food to feed her child, did they not give her a few quid? Genuine question.

You don't need to be in MI5 to read the thread and see posters queuing up to shower this person with compliments in the hope she'll nod in their direction.

also, lol @icarus. Crawl back under your rock dear.

Yeah, well it's nice to be nice.

I told Ann at Tesco how lovely she was today, because I'm just needy as fuck.

I found it hard to get over her obtuseness in the Julia Long interview - she was pathetic, rude, and ill-informed. She also (for a change) made it All About Jack.

Which was bad enough, without her going on Twitter and massively misrepresenting everything Julia Long had said.

Her stories are full of holes and she is very victim-y . She seems to need unquestioning adulation. Nothing she ever front has any substance to it but she reacts terribly to criticism.

Homity

My friend is close to her family. Her mum still stood by and left her and her kids to it when they had no heating or hot water for six weeks. My friend loves her mum, because she's her mum, which is why she can't see her mums behaviour isn't normal

Her mum is a text book narcissist but hides it well. As a result of being brought up like this, when out her comfort zone my friend comes across to people who don't know her as attention seeking and needy.

I don't think you can ever really get to the bottom of others family dynamics. Where all a bit fucked up in our own way.

Yes, Seek and Julia seems so cool, reasonable and articulate. Of course her argument politely wiped the floor with Jack's and it was horrible the way Jack tried to drum up hatred on Twitter for things (probably not) said in private.
I remember Jack saying she wants to include ALL women in feminism (including men). Like Julia pointed out her use of language renders meaningful discussion impossible.

I'm happy she announced this.

Not paticularly because I have any personal interest in whether this is all for retweets or whatever.

But because a lot of vulnerable, young women, mostly lesbians are being brain washed and sexually bullied by the trans movement.

If any of those girls are following Jack I hope they read that (and the DIE TERF messages from Trans people under it) and realise exactly what they are being sucked in to.

An extremely dangerous fashion that tells lesbians they need to have sex with penis's, women that they need to share their bathroom (while men retain theirs) and pumps sterilising drugs into gay people.

Replacing the natural order of humanity

Is that the one where women are on their knees with some man's cock shoved so far down their throats they can't see past the balls?

Ah Jesus not her/him/whatever again...

Care to expand, icarus, on what "viable and respectable" means?

Sure. Not the type of role-models that my daughters aspire to be like.
Pop stars who sing about boys in their underwear mainly, Little Mix at the moment. The Kardasians, Katie Price a while back.

But maybe they are just doing their best to be successful in their environment I suppose..

Do you have objectional male role models?

Replacing the natural order of humanity.

I really do feel that humans are at their core pack animals, naturally led by a dominant male.

I feel that when the pack lacks a dominant male trouble ensues.

Admittedly, I am not particularly well read on the subject, more a common sense view.

I am aware that I could be wrong.

As for feminism causing transgenderism, it seems not. I don't think there's been a definitive study, but anecdotally it seems gender troubled kids are more likely to come from very conservative families, often religious, where gender roles are rigid and the parents would rather have a transgirl than a gay son.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

*can anyone point me to a viable and respectable role model"

Germaine Greer
Margaret Atwood
Chimamanda Adichie
Meghan Murphy
Malala Yousafzi

Not that we need role models but there you go.

Hierarchy & Dominance Displays
Among the 50 or so members of a chimpanzee community, one adult male is recognized as the highest-ranking or "alpha" male. While several males may exercise dominance over other males, the alpha male is dominant over all the members of the community, male and female.

One day humans may overcome this animal instinctive need to have a dominant leader of their pack, I do not think that we are even nearly there yet. What is happening in society is females are assuming that role, not overcoming the animal instict. When a female dominates her son in a masculine way, seems to me they quite often become gay.

😂😂😂😂

My mother was the head of our household, boy was she dominant.

I'll have to tell my 6ft rugby playing, very much hetero brothers that they should be getting divorced and heading to the nearest gay bar

Wait, does that mean I should be a lesbian? Better tell DH.

Why don`t we need role models? I found role models very helpful as a child.

You obviously dont believe in the power of nurture at all?

Come on dodger, I didn`t propose that it was as unbreakable rule.

I feel that my statement does have some truth to it.

I expected ridicule, prove me wrong.

What was your father like Icarus? Domineering or absent?