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Apparently, women with vaginas are "cuntscum."

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WombOfOnesOwn · 22/08/2016 04:43

thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/08/18/edinburghs-lgbt-convenor-said-i-sure-hope-police-die-today-24996

This lovely person was elected to represent LGBT students. What a stunning and brave example they present.

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GahBuggerit · 22/08/2016 18:21

who the fuck is this prick?!

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DoitotmeSheldon · 22/08/2016 18:30

Ada is a particularly nasty piece of work but the biggest issue is that Edinburgh University is legitimising their pov by allowing them to hold an elected position.
Exactly A Place, I wonder if Edinburgh University advertises this charming ideology on their prospectus? I think students need to start voting with thier feet

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OlennasWimple · 22/08/2016 18:31

I maintain that I have bodily autonomy and can refuse to have sex with anyone I like, for any reason that I want. Whether that is because they have funny arm hair, an annoying whistle or odd shaped genitalia (see the thread about shallow reasons for dumping someone, and the large number of pp who had encountered unusual penises). That is my right, and it is your right, and I will fight damn hard if anyone tries to take that away from us.

So Ada Wells and anyone else who thinks that not wanting to shag someone with a penis is a bigoted phobic can fuck right off.

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MsKite · 22/08/2016 19:12

I wonder if Magdalen Bern has done a video on this subject?

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MsKite · 22/08/2016 19:15


She's done one about no platforming at Edinburgh university. It's quite frightening actually, and explains why lesbian students find it difficult to speak out against this bullshit
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EnquiringMingeWantsToKnow · 22/08/2016 19:34

Discrimination legislation stops at your lips - either set. You can think what you like as long as you don't say it or act on it. And you can refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason. I can say I don't want to have sex with black people, white people, ginger people, fat people, thin people, disabled people, people with that depressing disease that makes you smell of fish, men, women, people with/without penises, and the only appropriate response from anyone else is "fine, don't have sex with them then".

Even "shallow" blokes who rule out all women who aren't size six supermodels are absolutely fine to carry on with that approach as long as they cheerfully take no for an answer from the actual supermodels and don't treat all other women like shit for their crime of being aesthetically substandard.

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AskBasil · 22/08/2016 21:36

Ada's a raving misogynist and lesbophobe.

And the EUSA are terrified of him because they're a bunch of dishonest, careerist cowards. Transphobia is a brilliant silencing technique.

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MegaRichT · 22/08/2016 21:37

What on earth do you have to google to come up with this trash. The guy's clearly a loony so noone's going to disagree with you.

No, this view is not the norm amongst trans people. If i had been the writer Id have been canvassing opinion amongst the Edinburgh uni LBGT community

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/08/2016 21:38

AntoninArtaud
I attend university and this is pretty par for the course these days

Have you come across a chap called Robbie Travers?

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AskBasil · 22/08/2016 21:42

MegaRichT - EUSA disagree with us.

They support Ada.

Shock

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/08/2016 22:02

The person I referred to , Robbie Travers (I misread Antonin's post as being at Edinburgh rather than just at uni) is also at Edinburgh and was a member of the LGBT group. He has spoken out against Ada on twitter and Facebook.

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MegaRichT · 22/08/2016 22:11

Looks like there was only one candidate. We dont know what EUSA thinks...assuming there is a corporate view or how many people voted.

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QueenLaBeefah · 22/08/2016 22:22

A very long time ago I did my degree at Edinburgh uni and my god I'm disappointed with it.

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SpecialAgentFreyPie · 22/08/2016 22:44

I think when people are afraid to speak out against the leader of their own community and the school is aware of it, it doesn't matter whether they agree with the leader or not - They have to be fired.

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 22/08/2016 22:52

Mega we know what EUSA think because they not only allowed Ada to stand but also allowed Ada to hold a position.
Ada's bigoted comments were brought to their attention during the election. Since Ada had a wide range of incredibly offensive tweets, they were retweeted and reported to EUSA. EUSA can't pretend they were unaware. They have a process that could have barred Ada from standing. Instead they gave Ada a platform and legitimacy. They should be ashamed.

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Xenophile · 22/08/2016 22:56

I have Lass, not in person, but I've spoken with him.

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Xenophile · 22/08/2016 22:59

Mega, EUSA wholeheartedly supports Ada. Ada's actions, words and ideas have been brought to EUSA'a attention on numerous occasions and they have backed Ada up every single time.

It would seem logical to therefore have an educated guess that EUSA does indeed believe as Ada does.

We're well aware that Ada is a special case, even in the swamp that is TA 'activism'

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SpecialAgentFreyPie · 22/08/2016 23:01

I wonder if with the USA, they know they backed the wrong horse so feel they need to hol till the end instead of admitting they fucked up

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Xenophile · 22/08/2016 23:18

Not sure, there was plenty of evidence of Ada's special worldview well before the nominations

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MegaRichT · 22/08/2016 23:21

No. That would be a guess.

My understanding of the election rules is that there are certain circumstances in which a candidate can be barred. What they say is not one of them.

So far as i can see no one has actually asked the students or officers whether they agree with the comments.

I have no doubt at all that no one at the uni will support the comments..why not just ignore the twat (can i say that?😨)

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 22/08/2016 23:29

Ada seems not to be a very nice person.

Why Ada has not been called up on these comments by other officers of the union is beyond me.

Why have complaints about Ada not been made to the university disciplinary authorities and upheld?

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 22/08/2016 23:31

If I were an alumni, I would be writing to them.

It tarnishes the reputation of that university

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Xenophile · 22/08/2016 23:39

Mega, I know you're trying to make Ada into a reasonable person and EUSA not look like a massively homophobic bunch, but sadly, all evidence is against you.

People have asked.

Complaints have been made.

Despite evidence from Ada themselves, they have always managed to get away with it.

Even the truly antisemitic stuff.

EUSA does agree with Ada's viewpoint.

There is no other logical explanation, although I'm sure you'll try and find one. Ada represents the University on several social media platforms. If the students did not agree with Ada's worldview, they have had plenty of opportunities to state that categorically.

The silence is deafening.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 22/08/2016 23:49

If I remember rightly, this was the person who said that gay men didn't need representation within LGBT+ because they are privileged and not in need of representation.

This is a very disturbed individual, who, instead of receiving counselling and support with their issues, is being enabled and behaviour reinforced. All because people (the chaps in charge at Edinburgh) are too frightened to be labelled a "transphobe", "TERF" or bigoted (even though, for example, refusing penis is not bigoted, saying "no" to a trans person is not bigoted, and not giving in to ridiculous demands is not bigoted). It's like the adult version of "hex" or "veinlines" that Ada is using.

I suspect Edinburgh are just hoping this person graduates and moves on quietly, without fuss, without any accusations or drama or legal issues.

Because it's easier to call a bunch of lesbians "hysterical" or "bigoted" than it is to call a man born and raised with privilege, who is aggressive, deluded and knows how the patriarchy works, a homophobic misogynist.

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MegaRichT · 22/08/2016 23:51

What? I saix she hes a twat. How does that make him reasonable.

We do not know the eusa position.

As to the antisemitic complaint: the facts seem to be that he called him a Zio...short for zionist. It is easily arguable that it is not anti-jew but anti Israeli statebuilding...after all ken livingston said something similar. AJ Wells apologised and made it up with Theobald-Bonds the aggrieved party.

If you can find any EUSA comment agreeing with the nutty comments on vaginas etc show them to me. I too wonder what the uni thinks... but no one has asked.

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