Feminists hate men

[GirlWithTheLionHeart]

What's your reply to this? I need something good to come back with for future reference.

Girl, sorry to hear that.

Do young people still say "whatever" ?

It seems a more than adequate response to "femininists hate men". It's not as if you will change such an opinion.

I hate misogyny, male privilege, and the patriarchy. Most/ many men either do not acknowledge the existence of those or they knowingly profit from the status quo and I find it quite hard not to hate them for that.

Cheers Felascloak, I might just do that.

I also genuinely believe feminism benefits men and occasionally answer that way if I sense the questioner is looking for a proper conversation, rather than dismissing me/women/feminism through the medium of tired stereotypes.

OP, some more thoughts...

Which part of women getting the vote was about hating men? Which part of ending page 3 was about hating men? What about shared parental leave - was that about hating men? If 30% of heads of FTSE companies are women, is that man hating personified? How are abortion rights about man hating? I didn't lose my job on marriage AND my salary was considered for our mortgage - yep, lots of male loathery there.

In short, which particular feminist target or achievement is due to hate? Can they list them?

Oh, and Benedict Cumberbatch wore one of those "This is what a feminist looks like" Tshirts (as did a bunch of other men who I CBA to google). Does he hate men?

Thank you Jacquetta great posts, I really hope I can come up with a smart succinct reply from all of this next time. I usually get all hot headed and annoyed and then my reply isn't great

You get annoyed because it's annoying!

Are the men (?) saying this to you genuinely believing what they say, or are they being devil's avocados?

I can't tell you how much I like the sound of being a devil's avocado........

Best autocorret ever!!

I don't know if he believes it. It was my partner who said it. I think he was trying to wind me up. I just said so you don't believe women should have equal rights then? Aren't you a feminist. He didn't really reply.

Not a typo! An expression of my opinion of that role...

Does your partner do a lot of setting out to wind you up (aka mock things that are important to you and minimise your opinions)?

No, just with feminism. Tells me to take my feminist hat off when I start on something about men. It's mostly in jest but I didn't like when he said that the other day and I didn't have a good response.
Maybe when the kids are in bed I'll bring it up and have this thread open and ready!

I see.

And if you tell him about an example of racism or homophobia you heard of, is any headgear removal requested than? Or is it just sexism that he wants you to let pass?

Does he, perhaps, treat something that's real and meaningful and upsetting to you - justifiably so - as a debating society point that he wants to "win"?

Not really win, just scoff at. :(

I know you aren't married, but scoffing at you isn't very love, honour and cherish, is it?

Why is he deliberately unkind to you given he loves you?

...love is a verb, and all that.

...his actions as a man towards you as a feminist are, if not hateful, aren't likeable, are they?

No, not really not likeable. He was raised by a mentally ill mother who was pretty violent and abusive, no emotion etc so he is pretty good going considering. Not excusing just trying to give more of a picture

We have a 6 month old daughter now too so I guess I feel even more strongly about things and wish he was 'on side'

Ok, how would he respond if said daughter complained about sexism in due course, do you think?

And I would straight out ask him why he is mocking something that's important to you