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Just a bit of a question not a judgement about the boards

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FallenThroughTheRabitHole · 21/05/2015 19:44

I tend to go between various topics to see what others are saying. If I'm being honest the large part of my time here is spent in either Chat, AIBU or Relationships. I know those topics aren't a representation of MNet as a whole but you go where you go nonetheless.
I was just wondering if anyone had come across responses to various threads in which they thought "What on earth!?"

On the relationships board I've often found the 'Tell it like it is' clan, who often, if not always, have nothing better to offer than variations of 'LTB' are rife and are never actually helpful in way of advice or support.

Chat is normally relaxed... and AIBU is usually set up for a flaming of sorts. This is the internet after all so no-one should be losing sleep but I've always wondered how this would appear from a feminist perspective - The advice we are offering each other here.

I'm not complaining about these boards as I've often found a lot of supportive advice but one comment that hit me was someone saying that they couldn't believe the amount of ingrained misogyny on various threads.

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 22/05/2015 23:54

The way I'd see privilege in that situation, seneca (being very ignorant about it), is that there is a privilege that comes of being white, and one that comes of being male, but that is all inextricable from the fact that black men are hugely targeted. So you can never create a neat hierarchy in terms of individuals.

But I don't think privilege ever really makes sense applied to individuals.

didyouwritethe · 22/05/2015 23:56

I think it is pretty despicable to use "sister" as a term of abuse.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 22/05/2015 23:58

I agree.

Blistory · 23/05/2015 00:00

God, this really is the thread that keeps giving, isn't it ?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 00:01

Kinda, yes.

didyouwritethe · 23/05/2015 00:02

Excellent!

SenecaFalls · 23/05/2015 00:04

I don't think you can create neat hierarchies in terms of class, either.

YonicScrewdriver · 23/05/2015 00:05

Helpful posts, Blistory Smile

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 00:06

I'm not sure - can you explain? No need if you'd rather not, I'm just not sure I am following.

SenecaFalls · 23/05/2015 00:16

Jeanne was your question for me? If so:

It is the "neat" part I would quibble with, not the hierarchies part. But I wouldn't quibble much. I'm an intersectional feminist, but having gotten a somewhat early start on observance of the Memorial Day weekend after a really hard week at work, I think I will wait until I am sober feeling better to expound further. Smile

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 00:18

I am on board, as far as I understand the party line, with radical feminism re pornography and prostitution, although not necessarily for exactly the same reasons. I see these as debasing and dehumanising to all concerned albeit it's mainly women who are in front line. I have no time at all for women who have other options (and they do exist) but collude in porn and prostitution.

I think in hindsight it may be a terrible shame Mary Whitehouse and Lord Longford were such idiots driven by hard line religious views.

Most people laughed at them and their anti-porn crusade whilst Germaine Greer was happy to watch and talk about Animal Farm.

Bit off topic ,if there was one.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 00:18

Yes, it was - and thank you. Agree with you on the 'neat' bit - so no need to sober up! Grin

Hope your weekend is more relaxing.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 00:22

God, this really is the thread that keeps giving, isn't it

Who are you directing that at?

Blistory · 23/05/2015 00:22

The ether.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 00:25

Oh come on now. You were complaining about personal attacks and posters being disingenuous. Something prompted that comment.

Blistory · 23/05/2015 00:29

Mum ?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 00:34

On behalf of the ether, I'm amused.

Bloody feminists - no sense of humour. Or so I hear.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 00:48

And you wonder about why this forum gets the criticism it does. There was a conversation going on. If you disagree say so -no need for snide comments.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 00:50

No, I don't wonder - I already posted about this, a couple of posts ago, lala.

Do you need me to repeat it? Confused

It's very rude to ignore posts just because you don't like them, so I do hope you just read too hastily and made a mistake there.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 00:54

What? I really don't know what you are on about? What post have I ignored?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 01:01

The one where I talked about this, that you overlooked.

Why don't you read the thread over?

I feel a bit hurt you are taking such a confrontational tone, when the error is (as you admit), your own.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 01:06

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Blistory posted a comment which came across as very snide and is being very disingenuous about it.

I have read the thread over. I don't see what prompted Blistory's comment and your agreement with it.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/05/2015 01:08

Well, I feel very upset and shouted down.

Clearly people like us are not allowed to post here. Sad

Even when we try, you just tell us we are doing things wrong.

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 01:09

I've just reread your last post.What error am I supposed to have I admitted?

LassUnparalleled · 23/05/2015 01:11

Jeanne what are you talking about? I I'm not looking for an argument but your last few posts make no sense at all to me.