housework

[Iheartu]

I'll probably get everyone shouting at me, but why is it not obvious that men don't do half of housework?

If women are only working 70% (or whatever) as much as men, then it wouldn't be equality if it was all shared in the house. More men work longer hours so less men do housework. When as many women are in fulltime employment then as many men will do the chores? It seems pretty obvious.

that won't happen though. Not till men have babies LOL

What?

Come back when you've had three kids.

Brain dump?

You are suing that because in some families women don't work out of the home, the rest of us who do should suck it up and do all the housework?

What..?

Everybody should pull their weight at home in relation to chores. Men, women and children. You do your share according to your ability. You do enough so that your partner does not feel put upon or unfairly burdened. Anyone who acts selfishly, who expects to we waited on hand and foot, who ignores shitty jobs in the hope that someone else will do them, is a complete arsehole.

Just in case this person isn't pulling our chains.

A general rule of thumb is that both partners should have equal leisure time. If they don't, there's a problem with fair shares.

Thicko muck thicko has it wrong. It's not that the lazy cahhs women only do 70% of the work that men do. It is when both half of a couple work full time the woman still does 70% of household chores.

Happy to help .

Read Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine.

You will discover that there is a correlation between the amount of housework a woman does, and her earnings, relative to her male partner.

As her earnings increase in comparison to his, so does the amount of housework done by her, compared to him. (Obviously, this is statistically speaking. I'm sure there are many anecdotes of couples for whom this is not the case.)

So if I was at home with the kids? But then went out and got a job then I'd do even more housework than I was before I was working.

Statistically speaking.

Seems legit? Wonder why I didn't see that. Thick as muck though me.

Show us your data then iheartu. All the data I can find shows that women consistently do much more housework than men, even when accounting for work outside the home. I look forward to being educated by your sources.

What, my data for stating the obvious lol. Sanity clause got data showing women are doing more housework with a job than with no job. Explain that with your sources.

All of my mother friends who work out of the home do loads more housework than me (I'm a SAHM). Betty Friedan would probably have thoughts on why this is.

But as an aside I'm a stay at home mum not a housewife, there is a lot of stuff I do because I'm at home and it's easier but I don't do everything or feel I have to do everything because I'm not in paid employment.

Housework being a fairly finite thing, I'm not entirely sure how you would do more of it if you worked outside the home? If there are no people in the house during the day, then things tend to stay tidy, unless you're thinking that evil pixies come along and mess things up while you're out?

If both partners are working, then there tends to be less housework to do. Are you thinking of wifework? So, all the shit jobs that have to be done to keep a household ticking over, shopping, remembering birthdays, organising children, sorting out repairs etc?

Your basic premise seems to make no sense, perhaps you could elucidate?

Men earn 70 prcent of the houses income.

Women do 70 percent of the housework.

Makes no sense? All those fancy words and you cant do the math? LOL

I think bringing money into this confuses the issue. If I won the lottery, thus providing 100% of the next 20 years income, does that mean I never have to lift a finger in the house until the money ran out?

Speaking clearly,I understand that if I work 20 hours and my husband works 40,it would seem equitable that I would do more housework,and vice versa.
But where does looking after children come into that? And the womans financial independence? And the woman's freedom to take up more work?
You can't see the housework issue as a stand alone imo.

I bring in more money than my partner yet work outside the home less hours. So how would that equate in your ridiculous calculations

If you imagine that the average husband and wife lived in a caravan on their drive, but kept the kids\food\clothes etc in the house. Now imagine that you had to pay me at least £10 every hour that I spent in the house. (Leisure time spent in caravan). Now who do you think is earning the most?

We earn comparable amounts.
Dh works more hours, with his hours covering all the running around for after school clubs etc,which I do.
Who should do more housework then?

Well, DP works 40 hours a week (we'll neglect commute) - I have similar earning power, but someone has to look after the kids and until last week that was me. We now have a combination of nanny and childminder for 40 hours a week, which is costing probably about 30k a year.

So, when I was a SAHM I was saving the household 30k, just by being there. If you add on the cost of me providing taxi service, concierge, accountant, gardener etc. then I am contributing as much monetary value to the house as he is, and that's before we even get to the housework, and any real money I brought in from my freelancing.

By your sums, he earned 100% of the money, and so I should do 100% of the housework - but in really, I saved at least 50% of that by staying at home - how would it be fare for me to do that, and all of the housework?

? wtf? haha

you keep going on about the pay gap so men are working longer hours than women. So all the other jobs, the woman is going to do more. Simples.

Trouble is you want it all ways. Im not going back to work and why should I put up with people asking me when im going back then looking down there nose at me cos im going to look after my son properly. I dont expect my partner to do all the things at home too and im not going to bitch about it either like im so hard done by. Im lucky he works hard and supports us.