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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminist pub no 12: The Bluestocking Returns, this time with goats!

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YonicScrewdriver · 05/10/2014 09:18

Welcome!

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VeryLittleGravitasIndeed · 05/10/2014 16:08

A lovely new pub Smile
I like the goaty shooty decor.

AnnieLobeseder · 05/10/2014 16:15

I know Yonic, but she's only 9 and I don't want to overwhelm her budding feminist/liberal leftie brain with too much detail of the horror of political reality! Baby steps.

AnnieLobeseder · 05/10/2014 16:16

And I too love the new Goaty Cannon Arms pub.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 05/10/2014 16:24

Petula... I think you might have been right the first time with sod play. And there is the Hallmark Channel for the laydeez....

OublietteBravo · 05/10/2014 18:07

Hello - is it too early for Wine? I've just got back from a weekend with my parents and siblings. My mum kept telling DH and BIL to 'put their feet up' whilst expecting me, DSis1 & DSis2 to cook and provide drinks. (Apparently I have an attitude problem, and I'm a bad role model for DD - erm, no - don't think so)!

AnnieLobeseder · 05/10/2014 18:24

Oh, Oubliette, you deserve much wine no matter what time it is! Did you have words with your mother, or does she implode at the very thought of feminism like mine does?

OublietteBravo · 05/10/2014 18:47

I couldn't face an argument this visit, so I didn't pull her up on it. I only agree to go along because DD and DS love seeing their aunts and uncles and baby cousin.

Really glad to be home - will definitely be having Wine later.

(Did I mention that my mum bought me 'Jane Austen's Guide to Modern Life's Dilemmas for my birthday - it isn't even something I can re-gift, so I guess it will be going straight to the charity shop)

UptoapointLordCopper · 05/10/2014 19:41

What is Jane Austen's guide to Modern life's dilemma? Jane Austen is much misunderstood, I think, by the fact that they decided to use the quote " I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading!” from Pride and Prejudice. Hmm Are they illiterate at the Bank of England?

Dragonlette · 05/10/2014 19:46

I feel for you oubliette. My mum is pretty feminist but my aunts drive me mad when I see them. Over the summer we all spent a weekend at my parents and my aunts spent the Sunday cleaning and sorting/decluttering my parents kitchen. They made sure they told my sis nd me that we should be doing that every time we visited because now our parents are getting on a bit they aren't able to manage (they can manage, they just choose not to, same as me). Did they give that lecture to my brother? No. My brother is a fully grown adult which lives in that house but he's a man so they didn't think he should have to do cleaning Shock I think I put them straight.

kickassangel · 05/10/2014 19:47

In Dsis's house no one is allowed to make a cup of tea without making one for BIL. And DD and her two daughters cook all the meals and take them to BIL on a tray. Sometimes we get to sit in the kitchen while he watches the TV. But it's me with the attitude problem who should be stricter on my DD.

kickassangel · 05/10/2014 19:47

DD should be Dsis.

PetulaGordino · 05/10/2014 19:57

blimey. my mum bemoans the lack of help from my brothers when we're all at home together, but blames herself for not having taught them better

i point out to her that (1) they have two parents, and (2) socialisation

she still blames herself

Pepperwitheverything · 05/10/2014 21:51

Yo!! (Too much Breaking Bad, I know) Can I come in...? I LOVE any pub that I can freely go to the bar and not feel like a spied-on plece of cattle.

Zazzles007 · 05/10/2014 22:07

Welcome Pepper, no Eyes of the Patriarchy allowed in this pub, otherwise we set Goaty Fucker on them to deal with them Grin.

AbbieHoffmansAfro · 05/10/2014 22:57

Popping in to mark my place. No booze, thanks,am nursing a Campari hangover.

AnnieLobeseder · 05/10/2014 23:52

Ha! I have a wonderful mental image of some creepy dude eyeing out a women's arse in a pub, but with Goaty Fucker behind him eyeing up his arse, getting her (I assume Goaty Fucker is a nanny-goat) eye in for a good run-up....

YonicScrewdriver · 06/10/2014 00:02
Grin

Would anyone like some Lindt with strawberry cheesecake filling? I sneaked it past the PinkStinks detector cos it's lush!

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 06/10/2014 00:04

The DH and I were driving down to Manchester yesterday and weekend woman's hour comes on Radio 4. DH is now a confirmed R4 listener and listens to R4 everyday as well. Anyway, Jenni Murray comes on talking to someone or other and DH said,

'I prefer the other presenter'
'Oh, really?' says I
'Yes, this one was doing an interview the other day, and just wouldn't shut up going on at her guest, trying to get her to say what she wanted her to say'
' Hmm ' is my reply,
'Oh shit,' he said, 'This is exactly what you bang on about all the time, isn't it? If it had been a man, I wouldn't even have noticed, would I?'

Apart from the banging on bit I thought this was rather good. It's not just the equal shares of wifework that make a difference, it's also the noticing how completely we have all been socialised into discreet gender roles. It's quite weird watching someone else finally 'get it' though.

PetulaGordino · 06/10/2014 09:50

aroomofourown.org/if-you-were-a-feminist-by-the-real-thunder-child/

this is a good post, perhaps to link to when you get a well-meaning but somewhat misguided male poster

trevortrevorslattery · 06/10/2014 10:03

Hello hello. Please may I have a large mug of tea?

PetulaGordino · 06/10/2014 10:06

awright trev, one bucket of tea coming up

(i hope you don't mind that i call you trev. it pleases me enormously but i'm not sure why)

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 06/10/2014 10:50

Mug of tea for me too please Smile

DoctorTwo · 06/10/2014 11:53

Thanks for sharing that blogpost Petula, it's a great read.

trevortrevorslattery · 06/10/2014 13:07

Trev is fine by me, and thanks for the tea!

Ooh a horse called Trev won a big race in France over the weekend!
(I believe its actual name was Treve, which I assume means something in forrin Grin)

PetulaGordino · 06/10/2014 13:16

trêve means truce in french (i think), if that makes sense?