Do you think society (and actually feminist quite a lot) are conspiring to gas light women?

[WhatWitchcraftIsThis]

We constantly tell women they shouldn't be afraid of men, but actually they're dangerous. I would not leave my children with a man other than my husband, I don't tell people that but it's true. I trust my husband but even then... I'm always aware what the statistics say. I know what has happened to me, what has happened to friends. Maybe instead of laughing at women for "seeing rapist and pedophiles around every corner" we should accept that men are dangerous and that if men were a another species of animal you'd tell women to stay the fuck away from it. It's dangerous.

Shouldn't that sentence be "because some men DO these things to women"?

It could be, yes. I'm not sure where your emphasis lies there - it could be on the "some men" (ie "NAMALT") or it could be on the "men DO these things" (ie they don't just happen: someone is acting"). Both points are totally true obviously, and both are relevant.

I saw this on twitter (or an approximation of this):

Men to feminists: "Not all men are like that!"

Men to their daughters: "All men are like that!"

Yet if you say that society tells us we shouldn't trust men in general, even the men we are supposed to trust, people are appalled! How dare you judge a whole sex on the actions of a few, they cry, outraged! Yet make a nude picture or sexy video to share with a man, and what did you expect, you fool! It's your fault for trusting them!

I agree with this completely Buffy.

I feel really conflicted on this issue. I instinctively want to say "DON'T SHARE NUDE IMAGES OF YOURSELF WITH ANYONE" - but it sounds like the unspoken send of that sentence is "...or you'll have no one but yourself to blame when they end up all over the internet," and that really is not what I mean. I just don't know how to say it without it sounding disapproving and victim-blaming.

gin how about "don't share nude images of yourself with anyone... unless you have a nude image of them with a cucumber up their bum".

Flora I think that's quite good actually! My week's been pretty harrowing too. I'm on the wine already.

Men to feminists: "Not all men are like that!"

Men to their daughters: "All men are like that!"

yes, oh my god yes

Men to their daughters: "All men are like that!"

Meh. The only fathers who portray that to their daughters are those who:

a. Were the ones in their youth they would not want their daughter to date.

and/or

b. Stay awake at night frightened their daughter could have sex willingly.

Men to their daughters: "All men are like that!"

Meh. The only fathers who portray that to their daughters are those who:

a. Were the ones in their youth didn't respect their dates boundaries.

and/or

b. Stay awake at night frightened their daughter might be raped by men who don't respect their boundaries.

Fixed that for you DWH

No Capn, your a. is much the same as mine as far as I can see, just differently worded. Your b. is also not the reason, not even close IMO, your b. is just an extension of the thinking of a. My b. is entirely separate, based off men I have come across who laid the 'all men are like that' on their daughters they did not imagine all men as potential rapists, it was more that they refused to acknowledge their 'little girls' sexual agency or the competency of her possible choices.

Personally I think people are being gaslighted about cars.1,700 deaths and 20,000 serious injuries in the uk each year. And yet you are still allowing your children to mix with cars. Shocking! Perspective....

for larry

HTH

Back to the matter at hand, yes I think "mindfuck" is the best description

No DWH, what you're not seeing because you refuse to is that men who don't respect women's bodily boundaries are rapists. So b leads on from a. In your example b has no relation to you a.

HUZZAH

Perspective eh, buffy?

Buffy,

Except I haven't. This is a thread about avoiding men because they are 'dangerous', not about trying to make them safer.

The whole thread is based on a ridiculous and false premise and is, in reality, just a big goad. If you were to analyse 'men' as an industry, their contribution to GDP vs their risks (as one would for a power station, for instance), the benefits would be huge and the risks minimal. In addition, despite the OP's inflammatory post, she remains married (as do most on these threads), I would bet her children have male teachers too. Finally, do any of you believe your own sons to be 'dangerous' or are they all miraculously immune?

I think we covered that bit a bit earlier Larry, you might like to RTFT. But I did love the men are worth more than women bit. Biting that was. Biting.

Well quite capt. What's a few dead women and children when men are making so much money at the same time?

Perspective, remember

Yes, silly me. Must be that ridiculous and unproductive lady brain I have.

I do love kittens though.

Well Capt,

What's a few dead women vs 10s of thousands of women dying in child birth each year, similar numbers (or more) dying of preventable infectious diseases, starvation etc etc. that is what truly low GDP countries look like.

Easy to make cheap points of 'lives' vs 'money' but the real world does not work that way.

Your sons, are they 'dangerous'. Do you warn other females to avoid them?