Feminist Pub VII - Chat, questions, random thoughts too small for a thread ...

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Just setting this up while we finish off the last few posts on the old thread. Come in and pull up a bar stool!

[DenzelWashington]

Ok, read the TERF thread. Blimey.

[rosabud]

Have a brandy x

[DenzelWashington]

I haven't got any. Rum or whisky, rum or whisky, rum or whisky...but if I go to get either I will have to set foot in the kitchen and be confronted with tides of guilt at the sight of the dishes waiting to go into the dishwasher, which is full of clean dishes waiting to go into the cupboards. Bah.

[rosabud]

You have a dishwasher with clean dishes in it? Well done, you are ahead of me! Turn the lights out and feel you way to the alcohol.

[BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure]

"Turn the lights out and feel you way to the alcohol"

That's my new life slogan sorted!

[NormaStanleyFletcher]

Right.....


I am bloody well going to join one of these threads at the beginning so I have some hope of keeping up...

Hello

[BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure]

NORM(A)!!!

[BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure]

LRD, found this thread from ages ago!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminist_book_club/1435525-April-2012-Fiction-Book-Club-Suzanne-Collins-The-Hunger-Games

[ReallyFuckingFedUp]

Joey Barton on Q time. He said UKIP were the best of the bunch and compared them to having to choose between 4 really ugly girls.

But it was immediately called out by a male member of the audience, and then later a female basically said he would be destroyed on twitter

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2643264/Joey-Barton-makes-appearance-Question-Time-QPR-midfielder-invited-join-panel-alongside-Twitter-rival-Piers-Morgan.html


His comment is trending on FB at moment.

After I posted my comment though someone made a comment about girls in the UK being the heaviest (it was in regards to sport) and David Dimbly said something along the lines of "here is a question for Joey Barton". SO basically made a fat girl joke which made me feel a bit ill tbh.

[AmberTheCat]

Hello, can I join you? It's a bit early for the hard stuff, so I've brought coffee and croissants.

LRD, please do start that thread about the Hunger Games. I've been discussing it with my dd, who's just finished it. We both liked that it had a strong female lead character, but I think some of the other female characters were less inspiring.

[TerrariaMum]

Yes, I agree, LRD, please start a Hunger Games thread.

[allhailqueenmab]

Another call for the Hunger Games thread!

I made the big mistake last night of investigating some of this PUA stuff, and OMG. There is one phrase in particular that stuck in my head and I am not going to share it with you lot as I wish I had not read it and it is TOXIC. I am such an idiot - I think I can take an intellectual interest in things and forget that this is real life hate, that is actively designed to be bad for people like me and make sure our power is limited by getting in our heads and making us feel humiliated and small and hopeless.

I read some great stuff written by men on another message board, really thoughtful, honest stuff about how misogyny is a huge part of culture and how thoughtlessly misogynist they were when they were younger (they can see in things they wrote at the time, etc). Some of these men are now teachers and university lecturers who are teaching young men with the same attitudes and actively working against them. It is so very touching and heartening to see people acknowledging publicly the things that the mainstream would have you believe are paranoid inventions of fevered feminist minds - even when it involves self criticism and self exposure.

Have a good day everyone

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Done, but I warn you, it's a long ramble in the OP because I'm pre-coffee (DH is off work, which is lovely but doesn't half disrupt my schedule).

mab, that message bored sounds really heartening. You have a good day too.

[UptoapointLordCopper]

Found you!

Another one who have found FWR to be enlightening, and I have used many things I learned on FWR in RL.

Must work, though internet works in office and not at home so v. tempted.

[AskBasil]

Hurray a pub thread that isn't 400 posts long yet!

I'll have another 5 cups of tea. Hangover.

There was no question last night on QT about the Elliot Rodgers and misogyny was there?

Is it because I inhabit a tiny corner of the internet where it's big news and the rest of the world in the UK hasn't noticed it so none of the audience members asked a question about it?

Or is it just not deemed worthy?

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Hello basil.

I didn't see QT, sorry. But glad to see you here.

[DenzelWashington]

I loathe QT with a passion. Doesn't stop my mother ringing to ask if I watched it, then recounting the entire^ programme for me when I say, yet again, that I didn't watch it because I hate it. Then she suggests I watch it on iPlayer. Even though I hate it, and she's told me all the salient bits anyway.

[PenguinsHatchedAnEgg]

Following on from Mab's post, as most of you know I have a very tiny DS. After two girls I am feeling a real weight of responsibility about raising him to understand these things without feeling personally blamed for a culture he didn't create. DD's I felt more confident with - it was sharing my own lived experience.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

How is it going with tiny DS? I bet he is all snuggly and lovely (yes, I am sappy about babies). You'll be great with him.

[PenguinsHatchedAnEgg]

He is snuggly and lovely yes. But he hates, hates being put down. Which means activities which cannot be done with a sling (like cooking pasta) are done to a soundtrack of wails from the bouncy chair/mat!

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Oh, no! I hope the wailing decreases soon. But it's really lovely to hear how it's going.

Ahem.

Sorry, we were being feminist and I had an attack of sentiment.

[PenguinsHatchedAnEgg]

I think even feminists ate allowed gooey moments.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

[StormyBrid]

But feminism is about equal rights. And surely we all have equal rights in the field of cooing over babies. I therefore propose a mass moment of being overcome by the adorableness of tiny people. In the name of equality!

Someone just posted something about real men's rights activists (ie not MRA douchecanoes) on my facebook. Someone's commented that feminists and MRAs are silly to fight like bickering siblings and we should all be fighting for equality instead. Head, meet desk.

[trevortrevorslattery]

Hello hello just popping in to lurk too! Always inspired/educated by these boards including the pub

( I am a woman by the way.. despite my name!)