Feminist Pub VII - Chat, questions, random thoughts too small for a thread ...

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Just setting this up while we finish off the last few posts on the old thread. Come in and pull up a bar stool!

Facebook is not worth arguing on ime. People just aren't in a discursive frame of mind.

Or perhaps I am just lazy.

"real" mras? Everyone is concerned with men's issues. They do not need a movement any more than white people need a movement. argh. can I have a go at that desk too stormy

I saw a comment today from a man of course saying feminism shouldn't even be a word. (And I thought this guy was about to say something clever about how we shouldn't even need a movement) but he just went in to one about how feminist don't want equality and we should all be people and until we stop all this there will be no equality. So, feminist wanting equality is why we don't have equality. It's our fault. And it's definitely not the fault of men.

It's like people who call people who see racist things as racist, racists.

Logic, it's a lost art I tells you.

[squee] penguins :)

My ds is 12 weeks, it's lovely. I'm sort of stupidly in love

Just hit fb again to find the post and, my bad, the term in the original post was "real men's activists". It linked to this, which I have no problem with. It was someone who commented on the post on fb who referred to MRAs and feminists fighting a pointless battle against each other.

Incidentally, there are some positives to arguing on facebook. After an argument on there I no longer have to see or speak to my daughter's irritatingly sexist paternal grandfather. Result!

Me too Really. Think it is influenced by knowing that this is absolutely our last. A year and my tiny baby days will be gone forever!

same here, it' our last, but I also find it sooooo much easier this time. Don't know if he is an easier baby or I am more easier going this this time around because of experience.

Probably just seems easy next to toddlers though tbh.

ncidentally, there are some positives to arguing on facebook. After an argument on there I no longer have to see or speak to my daughter's irritatingly sexist paternal grandfather. Result!

Result

Talking of 'irritatingly sexist paternal grandfathers, FIl refers to DD as 'the little girl'. To the point where I just started to assume the useless turd couldn't remember her name. But no, he does. Why this description? DS is never 'the little boy/lad/whatever'. He is always referred to by name. My grandmother used to do this to her great-granddaughters. Bottom line, they're only girls, not worth more than a generic description? I hate it.

Penguins, I think we're in similar places. I have a six week old DS and 2 DDs. DS is actually asleep in his bouncy chair, but this is an aberration.

He is of course a snuggle as is yours. But he is also our last and it is a strange feeling as you say.

Denzel, any possibility you could start referring to him as "the old man"?

OMG, SIL does that to her own daughter! And has started doing it to mine. I respond every time with "Yes, [DD'sName] whatever" but she still calls her 'little girl'. Drives me apeshit.

Is it too early to get a hot toddy? I am full of cold and feel like death warmed over.

Not sure if I should start a separate thread for this as it's only a little thing, but has anyone seen Maleficent yet? We went yesterday and I [SPOILER ALERT] was pleased to see that Disney seems to be continuing the subversion of the true love's kiss thing.

Although I did agree with DD's analysis that the poor old Queen was very hard done by. Forced to marry that arse Stefan by her wanky father just because he'd subdued Maleficent, her first and only child taken away from her to be raised by fairies (Why?? That still makes absolutely NO SENSE!), dying alone because her abusive and mental husband was too busy ranting at his invisible enemy to come to her side - poor woman!

Lovecat I have to say you're not selling it to me!

I just need caffeine today! Been swimming with DS1. Legs, arms, water everywhere just like stated on the Women and space thread. He's only four FGS

To be fair the Queen was in it for all of 5 minutes, it was all implied/inferred from what the menz said... :o

Ahh right! I'll put it on my list of films to see. Thanks.

Yes yes yes but all these things happened to the Queen because she was in the oppressive patriarchal world of men. they had kings, and patriarchal structures, and were violent and greedy. it was in deliberate opposition to the land of the fairies, where they did without rulers, and no one would have been put into that position, and rather than a ruler they had a protector - who was the strongest of the fairies, not the most important, and who did not tell people what to do

I'm not sure I'm going to like Maleficent then, if the poor old queen is so hard done by. We're going to see it tomorrow, just dd2 and me, dp and dd1 have politely declined my invitation to join us.

I'd like to join in cooing over small babies. I love babies.

yyy queenmab (

Maybe in case a spinning wheel was missed? Better to isolate Aurora entirely than to take a chance? The old 'thwart the prophecy/curse' gambit which NEVER EVER works.

I wonder if it could have been avoided had Aurora been taught to spin from a young age.

This is just brilliant by a previous resident of FWR . It is a response to a letter from someone at The Good Men Project (I bet you can imagine already) and is just spot on.

TW: It contains much swearing. In case your feminine sensibilities may be offended

Two teeny tiny people! How lovely!

I miss my 2 being tiny, they are both great gallumphing things now, not great ones for snuggling up watching TV anymore, all very sad lol

I'm always slightly lost as to what to do with really new babies, but 12 weeks is a lovely time, all snuggly and warm, but less likely to break in my stupid clumsy mitts.

Evening. I am sipping some rose.

So yesterday I ended up ranting to a lovely male friend of mine about the fear women feel and about the constant possibility of sexual assault. I also hinted I had been assaulted (which I have).

He looked stricken.

And now I feel bad, but glad he was so supportive and open to what I said (which he was).

Saw him again today and he seemed different towards me. More "protective," which was a little odd.

I'm not sure how to feel about all this.

I'm not sure how you should feel about it either, Cailin. But I'm leaning towards him focusing on protecting you with the best of intentions because he cares, and that the idea that what you might prefer is a world in which you don't need a good man to protect you from the bad men hasn't actually occurred to him yet.

for LRD, and may I say I admire the dignity with which you're comporting yourself elsewhere tonight.

Hello!

Internet temporarily back.

I've had a G&T and now having a Riesling.

Enthusiastic threads all over the place, eh? Luckily I can't post much.

I see photos of my DC when they are young and cannot remember things like what they sounded like. Is that odd? But they sound fine now. Except when they are talking about Minecraft.

I also feel a bit odd about "protective" people (not always men either). Agree with stormybird's diagnosis.

Hello!

Hppe the Riesling is pleasant.

brid - thanks! It's not dignity, it's being knackered, but glad it looks good, eh?