#Yesallwomen reaches one million tweets!

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This has been started in response to the massacre and anti women manifesto by Elliot Rodgers. Makes for interesting reading...

www.people.com/article/yes-all-women-hashtag-movement-santa-barbara-shooting

'honey I am afraid that suggesting women need a "positive mental attitude" when many of us are worried about FGM, "honour" killings and female foeticide is going to raise a sad smile.'

You are 'worried' about it? Why, is it likely to happen to you? Honest question.

I see why you are concerned and angry for fellow women but to be honest it all sounds a bit self fulfilling.

You appear to care not and actually be really rude when it comes to the feelings and opinions of other women who have been through violence and misogyny, if they don't toe the line and agree with everything you say.

It appears your only interested in what other women feel and think if they not only agree with you, but hold the exact same views as you on every single thing.

That is not feminist at all in my opinion.

A positive attitude helps many women who are overcoming violence and the irrational fear it leaves behind. Why do you want to ignore this because it doesn't fit your agenda?

Many women have their own issues to deal with and overcome with regards to misogyny and male violence, they do what helps them, unless you are at risk of all those things yourself (FGM, honour killing, female foetucide, and clearly if you are you are not a white middle class british woman) your insanely lucky to have the head space to 'worry' about them.

Loved that post jassy

Has Downamongtherednecks been really rude to you, 22honey? Where, exactly?

So feminists shouldn't be concerned about things that don't directly affect them. If they are not at risk of FGM, honour killing, female foeticide personally (!?), they should not worry their pretty little heads about them, should not take any action around these things at all.

That is a great idea!

Can we get the feminist activism topic removed from MN please? We all need to cancel any activity around anything that does not directly affect us personally.

Jesus fuck. If everyone thought like that then where the fuck would the world be.

I am worried about it because it is my job to worry about it. And the reason it is my job to worry about it is because I made a conscious decision to do a job which tries to deal with these problems. Yes, it is sometimes fulfilling, and sometimes desperately frustrating, and physically dangerous. And I worry about it because I am a human being, and other people matter to me. I have not been rude to you at all, I think.

No, honey, I keep seeing you bang on about middle class feminists on here, so was wondering why you assumed that. If you don't think that, why do you keep railing at them if they aren't anywhere on here to listen?

Just a reminder that it's best not to feed trolls.

'So feminists shouldn't be concerned about things that don't directly affect them. If they are not at risk of FGM, honour killing, female foeticide personally (!?), they should not worry their pretty little heads about them, should not take any action around these things at all.'

No, try reading and comprehending correctly the whole post.

They said they were 'worried' about it. I can understand being concerned, angry but 'worried' about something that won't happen to you?

Downamong then there you go then. You have an actual reason to be worrying about it.

Crotchmaven is someone not allowed to air their thoughts on a particular issue if no one of that calibre is on the thread themselves?

Is there much misogyny under the hashtag then, or is it largely ok?

Yay, Downamongtherednecks! 22honey said you're allowed to have an opinion! High five!!

Janine, I take into account anyones opinion. I am allowed to think many of them are utter shite aswell.

7Days when I last had a good peruse a day or so ago, it was pretty much ok. Not too much dickwaddery, have a look, there's some inspiring stuff on there.

Downamongtherednecks we're not worthy! We're not worthy!

I am struggling to understand the difference between "worry" and "concern". I think I will take hermione's advice.

Thanks CaptChaos I don't have a twitter account and didn't want to log on purely to enrage myself.

You still haven't clarified where Downamongtherednecks was 'really rude' to you, 22honey. Can you, please?

No let's talk about ME instead Janine thanks awfully

'My personal view is that any woman who says she hadn't experienced the effects of misogyny is poorly-read, hopelessly naive or culturally brainwashed.'

I actually agree with this and said similar myself before. The poster who hasnt apparently witnessed misogyny probably doesn't consider 'minor' misogynistic acts like cat calling for example as misogynistic. Many women don't.

'You still haven't clarified where Downamongtherednecks was 'really rude' to you, 22honey. Can you, please?'

Why? I don't need to. It is possible I made a mistake and it was another poster I considered 'really rude'. It doesnt matter and I cannot be arsed engaging in childish tittle tattle with you.

Cheers Really. I despair of the attitudes that says 'I'm doing ok, so there is no problem that has affected either me or could affect others.

Yeah, honey, I worry deeply about those things. They're hugely unlikely to happen to me, but I worry that we live in a country where they happen, and I worry because sexism and misogyny exist on a spectrum. The worst atrocities become acceptable because of all the other 'little stuff' that goes unchallenged precisely because it's little stuff. But it all contributes to an internalised idea that women are lesser; that it's ok to pay them less, to sack them because they're 'bossy', to grope a woman on the train, to assume that because you bought a woman a meal, she owes you sex, to object to your girlfriend having male friends, to keep her in line through verbal and physical abuse, to assume you have the right to control your daughter's life and end it if she stands up to you.

You're right, many of these are big fucking problems. Many of them are, in isolation, quite small. But they don't exist in isolation. And we need to worry about what they are doing to other people and to the world. the impact on our daughters and our sons, about the culture that enables it and yes, about the women who are affected.

If we don't worry about them, who will?

Gosh, janine . Am I allowed now to speak on behalf of ALL FEMINISTS?? Not sure I can take the pressure. I don't feel very worthy captchaos , I will remember my humble roots.

You're very quick to pounce on other posters and accuse them of 'putting words in your mouth', 22honey. Shame you don't apply the same high standards to yourself.

I did not say, My personal view is that any woman who says she hadn't experienced the effects of misogyny is poorly-read, hopelessly naive or culturally brainwashed. But I would express surprise that any woman has NEVER experienced misogyny.

I get that, honey. My test for that is 'is the same thing (eg catcalling) likely to happen to man in the same way / as frequently to a man?'

If the answer is no, then there's your answer.