#Yesallwomen reaches one million tweets!

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This has been started in response to the massacre and anti women manifesto by Elliot Rodgers. Makes for interesting reading...

www.people.com/article/yes-all-women-hashtag-movement-santa-barbara-shooting

Downamongtherednecks I don't feel very worthy captchaos , I will remember my humble roots.

And so you must, before you morph into a know nothing middle class harpy without realising it or changing in any way.

"worry" and "concern"

I have 'worried' throughout my pregnancy that I will lose my baby. I worry about DP's health for example. I do worry that I will be raped again by an acquaintance or similar, or if I will be pushed back into prostitution at one point if the government makes things even harder for worse off people. These are issues that directly could cause me deep pain and destroy my life.

I am concerned and feel anger with regards to acts like FGM, female infanticide, but I am not worried about them because none of them would happen to me, due to my status as a white british woman. This is not me saying I do not care about these issues, AT ALL before anyone tries to shoehorn that in.

But both feelings, to me, are different.

However if your worried about it then your worried about it, your feelings are just as valid (seeing as though I have to say this or you presume I dont consider your opinions and feelings as valid).

'I did not say, My personal view is that any woman who says she hadn't experienced the effects of misogyny is poorly-read, hopelessly naive or culturally brainwashed.'

You did, I directly copied your post.

'My personal view is that any woman who says she hadn't experienced the effects of misogyny is poorly-read, hopelessly naive or culturally brainwashed.'

There you go Jassy, copied it again, the opening paragraph of your post.

'Am I allowed now to speak on behalf of ALL FEMINISTS?? Not sure I can take the pressure. I don't feel very worthy '

Plenty of posters here believe they speak for all feminists, and try to deny you are a feminist if you don't agree with them on every issue.

Yep, I said that. I think you're responding to Down's post, where she correctly said she did not say it.

And I wouldn't consider anyone who was a hapless bully towards women who had been abused when they state their opinions on the feminism related issues that affect them just because it doesn't fit in with their radicalised world view, a feminist.

Er. I'm not jassy promise.

Jassy, the wrong person must have been quoted at one point.

No infact, I never actually said that Down's made that statement.

Downs, why are you accusing me of saying it was you who posted it?

Do people on this forum deliberately try to confuse other posters or what? When I quoted Jassy I didn't put anyones username next to it.

Actually laughing now, 22honey. You've contradicted yourself twice in the last twenty minutes.

Yeah, I'm just confused about why you posted it back to me as if I'd been distancing myself from it or had disowned it. I really haven't, I stand by every word.

janine thanks, I was starting to worry be concerned that I am in fact trapped in a late night, first-year student debate in the 1990s.

' But it all contributes to an internalised idea that women are lesser;'

I agree with your point, but what about the sexual objectification of men which seems to be becoming even more abundant these days? Male strippers are really popular and there are tons of 'naked man' calendars and stuff sold.

OBVIOUSLY its not on the same scale as it is with women but it would be silly to deny attractive looking men wernt sexually objectified aswell.

How am I contradicting myself? She posted that she didn't say this and that when I never even said she did.

Have you got anything useful to add to the debate than attempting to bait, Janine?

Nah, you wouldn't be interested in anything I have to say. I'm an inveterate white middle-class woman. Lefty academic and all, even worse!

And back AGAIN to the thread.....

Did you manage to have a look 7Days? What did you think. I am almost afraid to have another good look, just in case it has been taken over by fuckwits

I think it's shit, honey. But it doesn't alter the fact that, as you say, it's exponentially more likely to happen to a woman, and shouldn't be used to suggest that women aren't systematically more exploited (usually) by men, for the entertainment of men. And even that a woman is more likely to be judged solely on her looks than a man.

janine I'm worse than you. White, middle class, bleeding heart NGO worker.

'I'm an inveterate white middle-class woman. Lefty academic and all, even worse!'

Probably why you've took such offence to everything I've said and keep attempting to patronise me.

Haven't patronised you at all, honey. Called you out on hypocrisy, yes.

Chaos, if the campaign has achieved nothing else, it's got the Daily Mail writing serious, detailed articles in which it uses the word misogyny and makes it clear it's a negative thing.

I think it's achieved much more than that, though.

'I think it's shit, honey. But it doesn't alter the fact that, as you say, it's exponentially more likely to happen to a woman, and shouldn't be used to suggest that women aren't systematically more exploited (usually) by men, for the entertainment of men. And even that a woman is more likely to be judged solely on her looks than a man.'

Yes, surely you must also agree that the pornification of human beings is damaging to all individuals.

Many young men these days for example have just as bad an inferiority complex about their looks as women.

No one is using it to suggest women arnt systematically more exploited.

But pretending that its a non issue purely because something happens to women more is kind of like saying no funds should be given to rarer cancers because cancers like breast and bowel are more common.

The media imposing what one should be onto young men quite possibly was one of many indirect causes of the 22 year old misogynist murderer.

What interests do male media executives have in sexualising young and attractive men?

Who's pretending it's a non issue?