The Feminist Pub (continued).

[UptoapointLordCopper]

Been busy. Came back today to have a look but the Pub thread was full! Shall we continue here?

Third episode of Borgen on tonight.

Evening.

I'm drinking some nice prosecco and watching the Doctor

Ooh, well done, I was just coming on to start a third thread as I think LRD is still AWOL!

I am NOT watching DOTD (harumph) as I didn't want it interrupted by bedtime and guilt, so I am catching up on work and will watch it later. So hoping to avoid spoilers - better get off the internet for now!

My lips are sealed Doctrine

Watched it all alone snuggled under blankets.

That.
Was.
Brilliant.

I don't watch Doctor Who. I watched one episode once and had nightmares.

I watched Borgen.

Which Doctor was it, LordCopper?

Doctrine - David Tenant. He exudes energy, doesn't he? I watched the one with Katherine Jenkins, and sharks swimming in the air. Bit like Sharknado.

Oh, that one was quite pants.

So I have been told. But I enjoyed it. And it gave me nightmares.

So, is Doctor Who a feminist show?

Pros - companions are usually female and strong characters with lots of screen time
Cons- the doctor has never been a woman, despite it being clear in "The Doctor's Wife" that some time lords did change sex when regenerating.

I'm happy to be corrected, but I've never found myself sucking in my lips in at anything sexist while watching the modern ones. Strong female assistants - who frequently save the day and aren't scantly clad...definitely an equal to the Doctor.

I do wonder that Russell T Davies didn't introduce a female doctor with a fit male assistant though - that would be right up his street - maybe too progressive for the beeb.

There was a big thread on here a while ago about whether doctor who could be a woman - which is why I went, "Hah!" In my head when I re watched the Doctor's Wife.

I agree Sabrina, certainly wrt the reboot. I think most episodes fail the Bechdel test but they probably also don't have two men discussing something that isn't a man often - part of the dynamic.

I think after starting with CE and then setting up the dynamic between CE and Rose, Russ had to have another guy, really.

OK so I watched DOTD because I channel-hopped to it this evening by accident. I must say, it is very exciting, and not nightmarish.

I think there should be a female Doctor. The assistant is good and strong and everything but she's not the one in the title though, is she? Happens all the time. Eg, in the Harry Potter books, they would all have been annihilated without Hermione, but she's still not the lead character, is she? You can have strong clever women, as long as they are only sidekicks.

Oh, I'm glad there's a third pub. I was quite distressed when the second one filled up but not quite distressed enough to start a third one myself.

I love Doctor Who, but I do think there should be a female doctor, I love the assistants but you're right LordCopper they aren't the lead. It does annoy me that ALL of the Doctors have been white middle-class men.

Can I come in even though I am not a Doctor Who fan?? I'm more of a Star Trek kinda gal!

Yes, we are an open minded pub

though JaaJaa Binks will be given the Vulcan death grip AND exterminated if he enters the pub

It would have been COOL if the War Doctor had been a woman.

Haha Doctrine...Binks is in Star Wars, not Star Trek!!!

But I love Star Wars too especially Han Solo

I know. Thought I'd chuck in another scifi reference for fun!

It is funny because ordinarily i hate scifi...But I LOVE Star Trek and Star Wars....Doctor Who I can't be bothered with!!!

Just sticking my head in not to rant for a change. I love Dr Who! Good female characters. But still far from being a feminist show as it's all about women playing second fiddle to the central male. And they need frequent saving and rescuing too.

Hi all...been away from the pub for awhile. I seem to always be a beat behind in the convo.

But I really need a drink and to ask some perspective from feminists such as yourselves.

Can I have a Corona and a listening ear?

Listening ear is always here, mummybeerest. Whassup?

Sorry for the delayed response. ..had a long discussion with DH.

So, I'm a SAHM to a 15 mo DD. She is still bf though we are slowly weaning. Dh works long hours at a job 45 minutes away from home. Most of the mum and baby friends we made have all gone back to work after their mat leave.

I love being at home with DD. But I'm bored. When DH is home, he just wants to eat and go to bed. On the weekend, we run errands together. Unless we go to weddings, DH and I don't go out. My friends are scattered around and all have busy lives.

I want a hobby. One just for me so I can feel like an individual, not just mummy.

He said "But you're so busy with DD. You won't have any time."

I am pissed. I've struggled this year with PND, moving, and general toddlerhood craziness.

Instead of being supportive, he tells me not to even bother because "being a parent is a full-time job."

Well fucking duh, but does that mean I can't do anything for myself ever again?

So I ask you...AIBU?