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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Join me, if you will, in envisaging the feminist pub

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LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 17/09/2013 14:35

Inspired by the obvious thread, I feel we need a fictional pub that's as the same sort of mecca for feminists. The antidote to the classic sexist bloke pub, where the floor is sticky and you can't get to the bar without pushing past three Important Regulars peering at your boobs and making blonde jokes, while the barman asks 'are you sure' when you order real ale and the beer for ladies comes in comedy funny-shaped pint glasses for our wee delicate hands.

In the feminist pub, I want to outlaw stupid jokes, obviously. But I also think the bar needs to be at a height that doesn't put my boobs on pint-level for every bloke there. And I would like it if there were etiquette that, when you've got your pint, you don't sit chatting to the barman and taking up space, you move away (I have never seen a woman sit on the edge of a bar, alone).

And I fancy copies of classics like 'Letters from a fainthearted feminist' standing about dog-earned on the bookcases, in place of old back issues of Spectator or random leather-bound books by dead white men.

Shall I apply for a pub lease then? And what else do we want in the feminist pub?

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EldritchCleavage · 19/09/2013 15:12

No no no. Or at least, only in the foyer where taxi drivers who have been booked have to wait for the passenger to arrive.

garlicbaguette · 19/09/2013 15:13

I'm not sure I want to affirm my fanjo by having drunks sprawled all over it, LRD. Not even feminist drunks! Can't we just have some tasteful vadge-related wall art instead?

garlicbaguette · 19/09/2013 15:14

Hah, Eldridge's plan makes sense Grin

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 19/09/2013 15:19

Ah, but I reckon the vadge-sofa would put those leery men off sitting down. It'd be funny.

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EldritchCleavage · 19/09/2013 15:34

Exactly!

Loopytiles · 19/09/2013 16:49

A work / study corner/room would be nice too please. And a fridge with a tasty range of snacks!

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 19/09/2013 16:55

This pub is now turning into an extension of our homes, isn't it? Which I suppose the best pubs are.

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 19/09/2013 17:23

An extension of home, but a wee bit smarter. I promise not to come in my onsie.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 19/09/2013 17:25

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MrsGeologist · 19/09/2013 19:31

Like home, but with a lot more booze.

LordLurkin · 19/09/2013 20:25

Can I come in?

It sounds like just the right sort of pub to not have some testosterone fired idiot try and pick a fight with me just because I'm a big guy.

Good surroundings and good company are the order of the day. And good beer/cider.

AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 19/09/2013 20:27

I'm off the booze. Can we make sure that there are good soft drinks?

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 19/09/2013 20:28

I have covered this, amanda (she says smugly).

I do want good soft drinks.

What I want more is a pub where there aren't gender stereotypes attached to every single drink you can order.

lurkin - welcome in. Smile

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 19/09/2013 20:35

Ooops. Outed as not having read every post. The shame.

I may have to stay home and not show my face in the pub for a while Blush.

Ah, sod it, the kids are in bed, DH is away, but I can come if I bring the baby monitor with me can't I?

garlicbaguette · 19/09/2013 20:38

gender stereotypes attached to every single drink

Another random memory, this time about my student days in the North-East. I went to the pub with my boyfriend. I had a pint of bitter, he had a glass of white wine. Some blokes tried to beat him up for having the wrong drink.

I'm sure Geordieland's improved since then, but those men and all their daft friends must still be drinking in pubs. And if they dare to set foot in the Fclub, I will ram them so far down the vadge sofa, they'll come out of its ears Grin

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 19/09/2013 20:39

Indeed. And this such a deep and serious thread, too.

Grin

Oh, and yes - we need a pub with a silent backroom where a (male) employee sits with all the baby monitors, ears straining for the faintest cry. His job is then to alert the pubbers and, if need be, go home to provide babysitting services.

(I am actually picturing the Sontaran nurse in Dr Who, now.)

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garlicbaguette · 19/09/2013 20:43

:) Sontaran baby room! Oh, yes!

AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 19/09/2013 21:09

God yes. DD2 would rock a sontaran babysitter.

ModeratelyObvious · 19/09/2013 23:45

Can we have doughnuts?

garlicbaguette · 20/09/2013 00:23

Think of Biscuit this as a doughnut.
Here, have a Cake afterwards :) Wine Wine ?

ModeratelyObvious · 20/09/2013 00:34

Mmm, yum!

contactmoney · 20/09/2013 00:50

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ModeratelyObvious · 20/09/2013 00:51

Oh fab, the p'n poster has crashed the bar.

TrucksAndDinosaurs · 20/09/2013 00:57

Can we have
A. Juice bar
B. toastie menu
C. Decent kitchen, which does great hearty soups, home made chips, quiche, pint of prawns, mezze/ tapas stuff and bacon sandwiches? As well as weekend roast? And curry nights?
D. A massage chair and visiting shiatsu person?

contactmoney · 20/09/2013 00:59

@ModeratelyObvious, what do you have against sex workers?