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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Join me, if you will, in envisaging the feminist pub

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LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 17/09/2013 14:35

Inspired by the obvious thread, I feel we need a fictional pub that's as the same sort of mecca for feminists. The antidote to the classic sexist bloke pub, where the floor is sticky and you can't get to the bar without pushing past three Important Regulars peering at your boobs and making blonde jokes, while the barman asks 'are you sure' when you order real ale and the beer for ladies comes in comedy funny-shaped pint glasses for our wee delicate hands.

In the feminist pub, I want to outlaw stupid jokes, obviously. But I also think the bar needs to be at a height that doesn't put my boobs on pint-level for every bloke there. And I would like it if there were etiquette that, when you've got your pint, you don't sit chatting to the barman and taking up space, you move away (I have never seen a woman sit on the edge of a bar, alone).

And I fancy copies of classics like 'Letters from a fainthearted feminist' standing about dog-earned on the bookcases, in place of old back issues of Spectator or random leather-bound books by dead white men.

Shall I apply for a pub lease then? And what else do we want in the feminist pub?

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ModeratelyObvious · 20/09/2013 01:01

Sounds good, Trucks.

yegodsandlittlefishes · 20/09/2013 08:35

contactmoney please do take a seat on the lovely vag sofa. It's the best seat in the pub.

Sheshelob · 20/09/2013 08:44

Shall we rename it Cunt Corner?

yegodsandlittlefishes · 20/09/2013 13:48

Grin If you like!

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 20/09/2013 16:36

Oh, bugger. Sad

I was enjoying that.

We'll also have Rachel Moran along to speak one evening. That might sort out the idiots.

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 16:46

Aw, LRD, I'll come and have a sit and a moan with you about gate crashers now. The kids are knackered in front of Cbeebies and DH is due home soon. They'll be fine for an hour or so.

Mine's a ginger beer. What you having?

LRDMaguliYaPomochTebeSRaboti · 20/09/2013 20:24

I would have had a ginger beer with you. Or bought you something stronger.

Sorry to hear about your DD. Bleee. That is not good.

(I am an even more useless source of conversation, btw, being off away from Internets, more or less.)

But I hope the evening has got better for you.

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 20:28

It has improved somewhat. The kids are in bed and I have a family size bag of maltesers. Grin

Would love something stronger but am sadly officially 'off the gin' (OliviaMN style) until spring.

yegodsandlittlefishes · 20/09/2013 20:56

I'm not a gate crasher! I am enjoying a glass of wine though, and so also neither use not ornament in the sparkling conversation department.

DD got very good grades in her tests last term. (I mean 5 A*s, then of As and Bs and 2 or 3 Cs.) She threw the report card at me saying 'I don't want to talk about it, they're terrible.' Tried to tell her I think they're great and I'm really proud of her, but she's having none of if and 'Won't talk about it until tomorrow.'

There. That is my pub banter for the evening. a feminist conundrum if you will. How do you encourage a lass who is having none of it? beats me!

AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 21:02

Oooh, difficult one. You may need a better pub conversationalist than me. I'm on a minor sugar high from all the maltesers.

LynetteScavo · 20/09/2013 21:06

(I have never seen a woman sit on the edge of a bar, alone).

I used to do this a lot when you were allowed to smoke at the bar. Siting in the corner was not my style.

And I don't drink pints, but if I did I wouldn't care about the shape of the glass. -Beer never quite hits the spot as the alcohol volume is too low--

LynetteScavo · 20/09/2013 21:09

I' sitting at the bar wearing a miniskirt and DMs....am I fucking with the feminist etiquette?

LynetteScavo · 20/09/2013 21:12

There must be an area where you go to be chatted up.

Er, no......the women do the chatting up thanks.....

I live in a bloody parallel universe, don't I. Hmm

AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 21:14

Oh I don't care who chats who up. I'm very married. I'll just stay out the way with my tonic.

I'll sit with you at the bar though.

LynetteScavo · 20/09/2013 21:18

So many people want the bar lowered by 5 inches. Hmm

AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 21:19

I'm tall, I don't. Maybe it could have steps in it or something.

LynetteScavo · 20/09/2013 21:21

And the stools too, presumably.

And who said "clean toilets"? Do men actually use the ladies toilets in pubs? Do men not appreciate clean toilets?

A thread full of such misandry on the feminism board.....and don't come the "tongue in cheek" answer with me.

Most of my post on MN are tongue in cheek. Seriously, I am Hmm at this thread.

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 21:34

Hi Kim. What are you drinking?

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AmandaPandtheNightmareMonsters · 20/09/2013 21:37

Ah good, someone who is drinking alcohol. I can live vicariously. I'll get in the drinks and we'll sit together when the comic comes on eh?

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yegodsandlittlefishes · 20/09/2013 21:40

The bar has a high area and a lowered area. Different sides.

garlicbaguette · 20/09/2013 21:42

You lost me, Lynette. That's a shame because I was feeling like the only tall, alone-at-the-bar-drinking woman here.

We shall just have to lean side by side, at the tall end of the bar, not speaking to each other while you observe misandry in places I can't see.
You can share my lighter, though.

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