Vile vile Ann Summers product

[Dillytante]

Apologies if there has already been a thread on this.

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I actually don't know what to say about this.

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Yes, low self esteem. But it's not uncommon for girls with low self esteem to indulge in sexual practices that they'd perhaps not do otherwise. Why is that? I would argue that selling sex on the highstreet doesn't help.

I find it hard to understand why you can't see that messages given out to women affect what they do and what they see as normal. For example, shaving pubic hair. Not long ago this was a niche practice and largely seen in porn. Now most young women do this. And these women will often say they do it for themselves because it feels more hygenic and more pleasant.

I agree to a certain extent with Blu. But it is still down to the woman to place boundaries rather the men to respect boundaries. Work needs to be done from both ends surely?

Now dworkin unshaven arm pits that opens up a whole new area of kinkiness ...

^But it is still down to the woman to place boundaries rather the men to respect boundaries. Work needs to be done from both ends surely?^

Totally agree. And I will endeavour to teach both my son and my daughter the importance of this.

MrsM - just as I said earlier with lesbian sex - it's not relevant to this discussion. Men benefit from male privilege in which their voices carry greater weight than womens. Two women in the bedroom are outside of this dynamic completely because neither has male privilege; likewise two men because both have male privilege.

And, as an afterthought, Ann Summers is aimed at women, not gay men.

But unshaven armpits are natural. Not kinky at all! And I have to say that it was viewed as kinky by partners.

Sorry can't remember who my post was addressed to

I think bondage sex has no place in Ann Summers.

Anyone involved in the BDSM world knows the degree to which most participants go to ensure each other's safety and well-being. Ann Summers has co-opted the tools without any of the theory. It's a bit like buying a Porsche and giving it to a 17-year-old who hasn't passed their test.

But is that because they are told it is unpleasant?

Agree with your other comment

I don't imagine that Blu doesn't think young men need support and education too. At least I didn't take her post to mean that.

I agree that women should not be pushed into the role as 'gatekeepers' of sexuality.

Men are having their sexuality hijacked (and brutalised) too by all this pornified crap.

I can't open the linky because I'm at work (naughty MrsA!) but I've got a gist of what this product is about and, quite frankly, if I'm going to give my husband a blow job it will be on my terms and not just because my mouth is an available hole.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no prude, but oral sex in a loving, trusting, caring relationship/encounter (either long term or otherwise) should be about mutual trust and respect. BDSM is something completely different, and if that was the aim of this product then fair dos, but products like that are normally sold in predominantly out-of-town stores like Pulse and Cocktails, not on the high street.

Beachcomber - I completely agree! Just as I fear that my DD will be prematurely sexualised by imagery and convoluted expectations, I fear that my DS will have a distorted idea of what is 'normal' and 'acceptable' almost forced on him in the schoolyard through peer pressure and gradual normalisation.

Yep you are right Beach (and Blu) just re-read.

Don't want to take this off onto a beauty practices tangent, but this notion that female pubic hair smells (WTF?) is just another version of 'women you are fundamentally disgusting creatures - sort yourselves out by spending a shit load of money on things you don't need with some plucking and lotions and potions because in your natural state you are foul'.

Nice. Not women hating at all. Oh no.

Sorry but I don't believe as many men as women do this. Anyway the fact that men do it too doesn't make it better - it just means the capitalists have found a way to market feminine beauty practices to men in order to increase their market.

I am mystified by the practicalities of the thing.

Is it just me or would the woman be unable to breathe

I think the image looks like something from a torture porn film.

Oh right, so it's for a guy to hold his partners head in place, presumably so he can go at it like a jack hammer without her pulling away when it starts to hurt and she can't breathe thus spoiling his fun.