non working mothers

[lorcana]

are non working mothers betraying their sex ?

What do these women do all day?
-Der, have you heard of the Internet?

Do they get bored/depressed?
-Only by losers like you

What about financial independence?
-There, you have something sensible worthy of discussion, but your first two questions mark you out as an idiot. So, am not going to answer you. Ner ner ner ner ner.

loving the term non working mother pmsl

oxymoron

No women shouldn't stick together what utter shite
The myth of sisterhood us the biggest con going
Engage your brain,if an idea appeals,has rigour, then consider it.but don't fall for some cliched gerls together rubbish.
Should males herd together by gender too.?

Because it's a bit obvious?

Because the discussion has been done to death?

I am doing what we think is best and I love sometimes, so be a dear a do one.

It's a silly question. Staying at home to raise children is not 'non working'.

Sahp is not a job.its not work

I don't get the question either. Who cares anyway...it's snowing outside HURRAH!!!

scottishmummy we should!

once we have children we all have the same daily struggles ok in diffrent situations but they are there i would never think of myself as being superior to my sahm friends!

the thing that links mums is constant guilt.

And you have wondered what they do all day. Do you greatly ponder what childminders do all day? Or did you think you had just come up with a really clever way of judging sahms?

Lorcana - there are important issues to talk about on parenthood and work, but I I don't think "is x betraying their sex" a good place to start.

Are men who don't manage to arrange their working and home life so that they see their kids betraying their sex?

No....

Is it a problem that parenthood pushes men and women into rigid breadwinner/homemaker roles that are gender determined. Yes I think so.

Speak for yourself.I'm guilt free

Guilt free here too

Surely guilt comes with allowing yourself to be judged?

I don't have daily struggle or constant guilt
Why would I?

also ignorant

ooooooo i see a snowman

'the thing that links mums is constant guilt.'

I feel no guilt whatsoever about my working/not working decisions. None. Colour me smug, if you will.

so you work and your betraying your children you stay at home and your betraying your sex ?

hmmmmm here we go.......
(plumps cushions-puts feet up)

Why do you presume maternal guilt or daily struggle?
What does that say about you?your expectations of women

The op has also posted about maternity leave too today? She does seem keen on anyone who's not back at the desk after passing the placenta

Guilt or otherwise....

To betray one's sex suggests that one's sex is a single defining thing.

That there is only one way of doing things.

And I would say that if feminism should defend anything, it should be the right to diversity. It is the right to do things in the way which suits you, regardless of societal pressure.

So devaluing those who stay at home to bring up children is about as constructive as those who denigrate women who work.

Bottom line for me is that women can't win because questions like this are still being asked.

I don't think that working = betraying my children. That's a ridiculous equation. Why/who on earth would make you feel that? Bonkers, frankly.

By working I provide my children with a home, a first-class education, and a role model of economic activity and industry. In time, my work will help them fund their cars and their flats. Just as importantly, I stay sane.

lorcana someone has to clean the house, teach the children, drop off and pick up kids at a predertimined time, feed all members of that household, buy food, clothes, educational materials, teach cooking, mending, DIY. Budget for everyday spending, holidays, replacing existing appliances, rainy day allowances and leave a bit over for savings and the luxuries. While buying groceries, cooking and cleaning for those too old or infirm to do it themselves.

Jesus, most people couldn't afford 2 of these professionals on one salary. SAHMs are seriously undervalued.

Why do you think that they are traitors, instead of thinking that they are an amazing undervalued resource who should be paid and celebrated?

why do you presume im talking about me?
life isnt rosie for everyone, certain people cant see past their own nose.

i do not feel the need to explain myself

Tosh,asking questions is good.can't stifle that
If we get to the point of cant say/ask that then something very bad has happened

Ask any question, and do expect riposte
It's the not asking thats the problem