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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

non working mothers

233 replies

lorcana · 05/02/2012 00:01

are non working mothers betraying their sex ?

OP posts:
MaryMotherOfCheeses · 05/02/2012 01:43

I haven't read Miranda Green.

I don't believe in godess shit, I'm not sure we're godesses by virtue of having children, but I do think that feminism needs to be about accepting, not eulogising the situations women find themselves in by dint of the fact they have given birth.

LineRunner · 05/02/2012 01:44

Beliefs bond.

I don't think the subject matter is inherently exclusionary otherwise you are contradicting yourself.

ElasticNipples · 05/02/2012 01:47

All i know is how i feel. im not in 'la la land' i just get through each day, take on the next challenge to becoming a better person/woman. yes i am proud to be a mum. i do think that some fail and some suceed how can we possible come to the conclusion that a sahm has failed? and a working mum has done it right? both will be making right and wrong decisions along the way. being a mum has tought me that we all try our best and keep our fingers crossed that we are not monumentally buggering it up along the way.

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 01:50

Hello! You again! When's your deadline Lorcana? Will we be name checked or will you put a little star and some names have been changed at the end?

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 01:50

Which beliefs bond?how utterly naive
The ones people plant bombs and die for.?
The religious ones?the childcare ones?the which school one?
Some beliefs bond some, and some beliefs cause strife,tension and chaos

I didn't bond with the precious moments mamas I met at baby group etc
Nor did they bond with me

ElasticNipples · 05/02/2012 01:51

altogther now
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah.
O Lord, Kum ba yah

haha goodnight ladies im shattered

ElasticNipples · 05/02/2012 01:52

dont assume anything about me please you do not know me!

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 01:54

For as long as some women peddle this we is muthas rubbish,there is a diversion there. Another stereotype to battle,as one now has to conform to being mum and bonded to all others whom are mums too

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 01:56

Correct I don't know you
Nor are we bonded
It is you who falsely feels affinity or bonded just because you're a mum

LineRunner · 05/02/2012 01:56

Yup, contradicting yourself.

LineRunner · 05/02/2012 01:58

Well, it's a mess of a thread thanks to Milton so any journo's welcome to it.

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 01:58

Ladies, lorcana has posted no less than 3 threads in the last 24 hours asking about women and work. All of them are contentious and provocative.

Maybe she's new and naive or maybe she has a special interest in women and work. Either way feeding the image of division is not helpful.

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 01:58

Yes elastic is all over the shop

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 01:59

Milton?

Am I being dim? I am arent' I Sad

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 02:02

No image of division
There is division
Read any baby in nursery thread,or working ft thread.that should be illuminating

LineRunner · 05/02/2012 02:05

Thanks, Katie. Which was my point. The media pours a blanket of images and faux expectations onto women (and men); the policy makers sniff around; and government decides how to react.

Tortington · 05/02/2012 02:05

to be fair i think you can feel a bond in teh communality of a shared experience. This doesn't mean that reduces the shared experiences to being amorphous.

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 02:06

Yes I've read lots of threads but I honestly don't think most women really care what others are doing as long as they are able to do what they want.

Admittedly some do care, some do very much and are very vocal about it, but most of us are just too busy doing what we're doing to be bothered about other people's life choices.

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 02:07

Please let Custy be name checked in lorcana's article Grin

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 02:12

Oh stop with all the it's a journalist.oh my v gosh
So what?if it is journalist
You do recall Justine mn Heid cheese is journalist,married to journalism
And mn does deals and collaborates with journalists,media

This isn't a therapeutic community away from prying eyes of emm journalists
It's media online business
Sells books,talks to politicians, needs journlaists

LineRunner · 05/02/2012 02:14

Heid cheese? You lost me there.

Can you type that again, please.

Tortington · 05/02/2012 02:15

scottishmummy, i think you are un-necessarily harsh all the time.

scottishmummy · 05/02/2012 02:16

No.You protest too much
Understood enough to not understand
Funny that...

nailak · 05/02/2012 02:17

Op why do you need paid employment to validate your existence?

KatieMiddleton · 05/02/2012 02:17

eh?