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GloriaVanderbilt · 14/09/2011 16:53

Hello,

I just reported a thread started by 'Dittony' which had a title attacking another poster and provided a link to a blog post.

It looked like a few others had reported it too as they had posted on it.

However in A/C there is another thread with the same title, which when you click on it takes you to a page saying 'error: thread deleted at OP's request'.

The OP however would appear to be someone who posted on the first thread, but not the same person who started it.

So can anyone please clarify what happened here...assuming the second thread was not posted by the same person as the first, (which has now gone) under a namechange?

(really hope not!)

OP posts:
LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:35

Bob, my post was in no way a personal attack. It was entirely within the posting guidelines. I am pretty offended you would say that (though by now after all your overreactions I should not be surprised).

Beachcomber · 15/09/2011 14:35

No Bob it is not worthless twaddle.

It is chapter one, page one, line number 1 in "Feminism For Men 101". Subtitled; "We know that patriarchy has taught you all your life that you are the most important person in a roomfull of women but I'm afraid you will have to lay aside that piece of entitled bullshit if you want feminist women to have any time for you - oh and you don't get many chances so you better pick this up quickly because feminists are the women who are sick of being talked down to so they're pretty perceptive and non-compromising when it comes to men acting dudely. In fact is pisses them right royally off so much that if you do it more than once they tend to class you as an entitled dick and not want to have much to do with you".

HTH

ShirelyKnotSHIRE · 15/09/2011 14:35

DON'T DO IT BOB. DON'T DO IT TO ME AGAIN. I CAN'T TAKE IT

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 14:37

Pan!

TheCrackFox · 15/09/2011 14:37

Do lots of women regularly visit MRA sites and repeatedly tell them where they are going wrong?

Beachcomber · 15/09/2011 14:38

And it is not because you are men.

Sigh.

It is because you don't listen and act dudely - lots of men do it but not all men.

If you hear it from a man will it suddenly stop being in lady brain code?

edd1337 · 15/09/2011 14:38

I think i'm going to make some flameshields for that treehouse

SweetTheSting · 15/09/2011 14:40

LRD, you rock.

HereBeBolloX · 15/09/2011 14:41

"At last the truth is admitted, I and any man who choses to post here must accept being personally attacked, because we're men."

And the other men who aren't personally attacked because they're men?

Does my bum look big in this?

theothersparticus · 15/09/2011 14:42

No, Bob, I did not say you would be attacked because you are a man, I said you are posting from a different place. I did not say your views would not be listened to. I did not say that your opinions wouldn't matter. Men who wish to engage with a feminist board will have their views and opinions challenged, much as I would expect anyone's to be challenged.

It's just that when you make a statement that comes across as entitled on a feminist board when you claim to want to support women, the least you can expect is a reminder that entitlement is not welcome.

Please don?t twist people?s words whilst complaining that people are twisting yours.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:42

Thank you sweet. You see bob, I am trying to defend you and there are people who can recognize what I am doing. I don't see where it gets you to insist on insulting the people who are on your side in this. You just need to compromise, and learn to take a joke, honestly mate.

TheCrackFox · 15/09/2011 14:43

Parp

BobBanana · 15/09/2011 14:43

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:44

You've got to understand bob, a lot of people would simply disagree with you flat out for what you are saying - or would mock you, like a lot of posters on here are doing. I accept it is only fair for me to try to understand and help you. But you are just distancing yourself further and further to one extreme, so it is very hard for me to keep sympathizing.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:46

Bob, honestly, I have talked a lot to Pan and AdelaofBlois and I am sure they would have understood that joke as a joke. It's only humour - I think you are looking for hidden meanings that aren't there.

BobBanana · 15/09/2011 14:46

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:46

I think you are a bit hung up on this issue of your gender, to be honest. Why do you want to talk about it so much? Can't we have a more rounded discussion?

vesuvia · 15/09/2011 14:48

dittany and Sakura, I am appalled to hear about the continued abuse that you have been experiencing on Mumsnet and elsewhere on the web. I find it totally unacceptable.

I hope that you both continue posting on Mumsnet. You are as entitled as anyone else to post. I have found many of your opinions and insights very thought-provoking. I know the recent attacks on you are targeting the two of you specifically, but I think it is also worth noting that if the two of you are not posting, the attackers do then target other Mumsnet feminist regulars. It's all part of a wider attack on feminism and feminists.

theothersparticus · 15/09/2011 14:49

Gods, I keep telling myself not to engage with trolls

BobBanana · 15/09/2011 14:50

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BobBanana · 15/09/2011 14:52

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ShirelyKnotSHIRE · 15/09/2011 14:52

I could cry for you LRD. Honestly, if only people would read what you'd said Sad

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 14:53

Parp parpitty, parp parpitty, parp parparoo,
I have a tale
About a troll
Just for you!
Parp parpitty, parp parpitty, parp parparee,
These men seem to think,
Women have it easy...

(To the tune of Chim- chiminee)

LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 14:53

Bob, I think you are being paranoid now. Honestly, I made a little joke. I explained it was lighthearted and a deliberate attempt to talk to you (and edd) on your wavelength. I really feel you are overreacting. I don't pretend to understand the emotional complexity of your response, but it clearly is about your anxieties about gender.

What I am trying to say is, don't let yourself get so preoccupied with one issue that you forget who's on your side here.

Honestly, if you asked most men, they would tell you you were overreacting - this isn't really an issue.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 14:54

Anyone getting deja vu everytime Bilbo Bobbins name pops up?