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GloriaVanderbilt · 14/09/2011 16:53

Hello,

I just reported a thread started by 'Dittony' which had a title attacking another poster and provided a link to a blog post.

It looked like a few others had reported it too as they had posted on it.

However in A/C there is another thread with the same title, which when you click on it takes you to a page saying 'error: thread deleted at OP's request'.

The OP however would appear to be someone who posted on the first thread, but not the same person who started it.

So can anyone please clarify what happened here...assuming the second thread was not posted by the same person as the first, (which has now gone) under a namechange?

(really hope not!)

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MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 18:06

Someone (can't remember a name) came up with a great response that I liked. They linked to stats and articles about violence and discrimination against women rather than engaging with the poster.

Non-engagement has to be the way to go given MN's stance. Don't engage, carry on with the thread, and report them every time they break the rules. When they are using multiple names it is pretty difficult for MN to bar them - they come back with a new name and IP address. They can spew bile one night and be playing the faux concern card the next morning.

If you want to educate/challenge address the lurkers. Trolls are inadequate people who thrive on attention. Starve them.

StewieGriffinsMom · 15/09/2011 18:07

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forkful · 15/09/2011 18:13

not much time to post on MN at the moment but have been lurking and am Sad

very Sad

not sure exactly what's been going on but I have the gist I think Sad

Angry
AyeBelieveInTheHumanityOfMen · 15/09/2011 18:14

What Catitainahatita said. And NarkyPuffin.

Dittany and sakura - you have both changed my life and I thank you for that. I am sorry that MNHQ have not protected you both from all the shit that's gone on. Shame on them,

forkful · 15/09/2011 18:15

Who the fuck are bob and edd and what the fuck are they doing here.

Tyr · 15/09/2011 18:17

Was this anything to do with that wanky site? (there was a thread about it a while ago)
Some tosspot was reproducing posts from MN with hilariously illiterate derogatory comments. Probably not so hilarious if you were on the receiving end. If I remember correctly, Dittany and Sakura were the main targets.
Is that what caused them to leave? I only ever scroll through "Active Topics" here as I'm extremely busy so I miss a lot of threads.
No matter how much I disagree with a view, I won't have it silenced without saying something.
If there are threads or other sites that have been responsible for this, can someone point me in their direction? A pm is fine.
Also, did someone say that one of them had been named in the DM? I don't read newspapers so WTF was that about?

garlicbutty · 15/09/2011 18:22

What on earth is this deep cover referred to by MitchiestInge at 17:55? Confused

Are we in the 1955 Cold War??!

garlicbutty · 15/09/2011 18:26

Tyr, I am one of the posters who distressed Dittany and Sakura. That was on Mumsnet threads a couple of months ago and I also felt like quitting. I hope we've reached an uneasy truce now, but this post is to acknowledge that the aggro didn't all happen off-site. Most of it was on Mumsnet.

MitchiestInge · 15/09/2011 18:27

I get them all muddled up, they blur into one another - but on one of the sites they scurry back to, it might not be W. Michigan's finest it might be James actually, one of them was really proud of his 'deep cover' here. I don't seriously think for one minute that they could come up with such a cunning disguise as dittany or Sakura though.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:28

Ahem. SGM? It's HRHChickensHaveNoEyebrows, if you don't mind. One must keep a level of formality Oh, and just in case anyone missed it, I AM NOT A TROLL

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:29

I'm not Jamez either. AuntieMonica can vouch for my lack of penis.

garlicbutty · 15/09/2011 18:30

That would be funny! He'd be shooting hisself in the foot somewhat, since Dittany has converted so many to the cause ... Troll like that, we could use Grin

ChristinedePizan · 15/09/2011 18:32

Ahem - TMI chickens Angry

SybilBeddows · 15/09/2011 18:36

I like the 'Dittany is Jamez's deep cover' theory very much.
For a start, have any of us actually met Dittany? Secondly, that would be why she never tells people details about her RL: that way she can't post inconsistent things about how many dcs she has and thus get caught out. Clever.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:36

Christine, why does my lack of penis make you cross? It is merely fact

SybilBeddows · 15/09/2011 18:37

Chickens - could your ASBO bantam be Jamez's deep cover?

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:39

Or, could Jamez be ASBO's cover? Although it would take her fucking ages to make one of them there videos on the you tube. And typing would give her one hell of a headache.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 18:40

"I can do a good line in being an argumentative twat (not that you've noticed, I'm sure) so maybe you should leave them to me and edd1337."

Ohhh, that's helpful, Bob. Seeing as us poor lickle wimminz can't defend ourselves.

SGM Can we have ticckers added, please? I'd like one which has a countdown to my next rant... Grin The next one feels oddly close, but I'm blaming this migraine.

ChristinedePizan · 15/09/2011 18:41

I am not sure I can cope with your sexy behaviour with AuntieM, chickens. Everyone knows women hate sex so there is no way anyone should be looking at your foofoo

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:44

AuntieMonica and I are in a relationship of a platonic nature, I assure you. But she might have seen my arse.

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 18:47

We know there are permanent trolls on this board. If MN barred them, they would pop up in new clothes. The vile (and frankly loopy) troll last night could be one of these regular trolls venting steam at having to play nicely to maintain the 'faux concern.' We won't ever know if that's the case.

If someone asks questions be nice and give them the links to educate themselves. If you feel they are trolling report them and disengage.

There are some regular MNers whose behaviour has really shocked me. This is a section to discuss feminist thought and look at how we view the world. Some posters treat it as AIBU and leap in to say the OP is wrong and it's stupid to even be discussing the issue. Then they accuse people of being aggressive and intolerant when they try to explain that's how this section is used. I think it's become apparent that the 'This is not a fight club' warning needs to be on this board too.

It's the feminist section. It will involve looking at things from a different angle by definition. You don't have to agree with that view fully or at all, but telling people they're mad or anti-men or have a victim mentality for even thinking about things outside of the accepted viewpoint is pathetic. When people stop attacking the post and start attacking the poster it makes me ashamed that I've ever interacted with them. Regular MNers are real (mainly) women who are sitting in front of a laptop in a real home. They are not just a name on a site. When you start to attack them rather than their views and point score it just marks you out as a rather petty person. Particularly when you are the one going out of your way to continue the argument, posting in a section that doesn't really interest you.

We all know posters that we are never going to agree with - politically SmallWhiteCat and I are on different ends of the spectrum - but that doesn't mean you need to insult them. Equally there will be people you don't like. People who grate on you. It's usually fairly easy to avoid them. With certain posters you'll know as soon as you see their name what their response will be like. You'll see a thread and think, 'X will come and kick their arse for that.' There is room enough for us all on here. You don't have to agree with someone or even like them. You should at least be able to agree to disagree.

This is actually one of the most tolerant sections on MN. If you went onto the other specialist sections and posted that anyone who spent their time fussing about chickens needs to get out more or that camping enthusiasts give women a bad name how warm would the welcome be? The posters here have consistantly tried to engage and educate, even when it's become obvious that the person concerned is just trying to cause trouble.

MadameDefarge · 15/09/2011 18:47

I am afraid bob you have missed the point entirely....your gender is completely pertinent to debates about feminism. You might not like it, but there it is.

You either accept that your posting is going to be viewed as a post by a man, and all that entails, or you go off somewhere else.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 15/09/2011 18:51
MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 18:59

.. When of course we all know that caring for chickens is a valid lifestyle choice and should be celebrated as such.

StewieGriffinsMom · 15/09/2011 19:09

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