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Spoiler The Potter Thread for those who have finished the book

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happymerryberries · 17/07/2005 21:31

This is for everyone who knows what has happened and wants to chat about what will come next

Spoilers Space

I think that a lot of the next one will be in Grimauld place.

Sirius' brother is the person who stole the Locket (idea pinched from a clever mate of mine)

Dumbledore ordered Sirius to 'do the deed' and Sirius is a triple agent

I still think Percy Weasly will turn out to be a 'good egg'

Another good idea stolen from someone else is that part of Vodermorts soul is held in Harry's scar!!!! Damn clever that I thought!!!

Spoiler for people who read from the bottom, so to speak!

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flamesparrow · 20/07/2005 16:34

Obviously I don't know anyone real who is that cross

alexsmum · 20/07/2005 16:36

can't comment on your choices sparrow cos i haven't a clue who they are!!!
christopher eccleston is young and can be smiley and nice but has that mad intensity in his eyes!

Aragon · 20/07/2005 17:06

However, Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy is deliciously evil in a very sexy kind of way - or am I twisted?

Aragon · 20/07/2005 17:07

My DH has just told me that he doesn't wish to hear any more about Harry bloody Potter as he's sick to death of it all. Also told me I was an "anorak". He can talk - all the Dr Who memorabilia everywhere.

lilymum · 20/07/2005 17:18

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Just finished book, very impressed at some of the theories on this thread, think Regulus Black and locket sounds very plausible.

Snape definitely bad, I'm sorry, he just HAS to be, can't think of any way he can redeem himself having revealed being responsible for telling Voldemort the prophecy and hence indirectly for James and Lily Potter being killed by Voldy. And then actually killing Dumbledore. Bit of an anticlimax after the whole Dumbledore trusting him for some secret and enigmatic reason. He's always been boo-hiss pantomimic bad and felt that revelation that he was genuinely evil and double-agent was most rounded and convincing thing she did with his character.

Found the episode when Dumbledore and Harry go after what turns out to be the fake horcrux strangely disengaging - just Dumbledore waving his arms and muttering and Harry mostly had passive role, apart from force-drinking Dumbledore the potion. What hope does this give us that JK can get him to convincingly figure out all the others and destroy them on his own?

Don't think Harry can be a horcrux, but wouldn't surprise me if he does end up dead at the end of the next book - would make sense of the fact that she is totally adamant that she will never write about him again.

And with Dumbledore gone, JK has left large gap at centre of the series. The character provided a focal point and while he was doing lots of leg work in the background gave a realistic chance that Voldemort might eventually be defeated.

Thought this was definitely better than the last one, although felt that plot didn't really pick up pace until p175 or thereabouts.

Dahlia · 20/07/2005 17:27

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I could see Sirius as a cross between a young Mel Gibson - like he was in Lethal Weapon with long hair - and a young and wilder looking Ian McShane. Or Johnny Depp with wild hair. I agree Gary Oldman was wrong.

tallulah · 20/07/2005 17:58
Dahlia- yes to all of those!

Perhaps it was me but I found the first 400 pages really dire... it was only the last 100-200 that anything actually happened. Don't think the later 2 books have been a patch on the first 3, and read like they've been written with an eye to what they'll look like on the big screen, instead of a good read.

I've been having a problem with the whole Snape is really evil situation, and also felt that he wasn't the half Blood Prince at all.. glad to hear others thought so too.

(I was also really shocked at Dumbledore's death & kept expecting it would turn out to be some cunning plan by the end)

milosmum · 20/07/2005 19:00

i really like Daniel Radcliffe and Gary Oldman- its the guy who played Lupin that just didn t "fit" for me- he was just sooooo wrong as lupin is my fav charcter in the books- him and Mad eye Moody......

Think Rons casting is fantastic also....Not sure about the new Dumbledore either...

flamesparrow · 20/07/2005 21:08

Lupin wasn't right either, no... I'm with you there.

He just seemed too pathetic and wimpy.

compo · 20/07/2005 21:44

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It's all a ruse! Snape is definitely on the side of the angels. Dumbledore and Snape are working together throughout the book. We all know that Dumbledore is never wrong, and he isn't wrong about Snape. He had the entire finale of the book all planned out.

What do we actually see? Snape comes onto the roof, points his wand at Dumbledore, yells the killing curse and Dumbledore is blasted off the roof.

Firstly, it is established in the book that Snape is a master of casting non-verbal spells. He might have said "Avada Kedavara" but he could have been casting anything.

Secondly, the Killing Curse doesn't knock people backwards. Everytime it's used in the books the victim just crumples.

Thirdly, the only evidence we really have that Dumbledore is dead is a body at the foot of the tower that looks like Dumbledore. I'm sure we all agree that Dumbledore would be able to fake that pretty easily.

Dumbledore faked his own death to get Snape even chummier with Voldemort and his cronies. And now Dumbledore can operate without interference doing what he pleases.

Oh, and the fourth unknown horcrux is that mouth-organ from Voldemort's orphanage days.

compo · 20/07/2005 21:45

and if you're anoraky like me this site is cool

MrsDoolittle · 20/07/2005 22:07

"Oh, and the fourth unknown horcrux is that mouth-organ from Voldemort's orphanage days."

That's a very good one - I like that!!

Linnet · 20/07/2005 22:16

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ok, new thought...If it was Regulus who took the real locket from the cave and left the note how did he manage to get across the lake and drink all the potion all by himself? Dunbledore had Harry with him to make sure that he drank all the potion, so who did Regulus take...would it have been Kreacher perhaps? House Elves have to do what their masters tell them?

I agree about the actor who played Lupin, can't remember his name was it Gary Oldman? He was all wrong, not how I imagined Lupin to be at all. Johnny Depp would have been good somewhere in the cast of characters though, drool

is the next HP Film coming out this year?

MrsDoolittle · 20/07/2005 22:17

November 18, I think.

spursmum · 20/07/2005 22:19

The bloke who played lupin was David Thewlis(anna friels hubby)

misdee · 20/07/2005 22:22

cant wait for the next film.

spursmum · 20/07/2005 22:27

You'll make me watch it!! its your fault im addicted!! Blame misdee for everything!

assumedname · 20/07/2005 22:29

Linnet - Dumbledore had the real locket on him until he was hit by Snape. Then it was taken from his 'body'.

bettys · 20/07/2005 22:56

This made me laugh:
"And Odo the hero, they bore him back home
To the place that he'd known as a lad,
They laid him to rest with his hat inside out
And his wand snapped in two, which was sad"

Slughorn and Hagrid's little song.

Whatever happened to that thingy Sirius gave Harry so that he could talk to him anytime? A mirror or something that Harry stuffed in his trunk & forgot about. I think Harry will use it to talk to Sirius 'from behind the curtain' as it were to find out more about Regulus.

I also think Harry will become a teacher at Hogwarts ( and future Headmaster) when it's all over. Not an Auror.

MrsDoolittle · 21/07/2005 10:51

assumedname - are you sure about that?
I don't think so

expatinscotland · 21/07/2005 10:54

Assumed, RAB put a fake locket in the bottom of the basin of potion that Dumbledore drank to get to. 'RAB' stole the real locket/Horcrux. No telling what he/she did w/it, but as he/she wrote a note found in the fake locket that explained how he/she would be dead by the time the note was read, one can suspect that it may have been Regulus Black who stole the real one.

expatinscotland · 21/07/2005 10:57

Lupin and Tonks? Man, that's a combo that I didn't see coming!

expatinscotland · 21/07/2005 11:10

Gary Oldman played Sirius Black!

assumedname · 21/07/2005 11:19

Oops! Sounds like I'll have to re-read that bit!

Dahlia · 21/07/2005 12:12

Compo, good theories. I had wondered if Snape had used a different spell from what it appeared to be. Oh I do hope so.

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