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Spoiler The Potter Thread for those who have finished the book

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happymerryberries · 17/07/2005 21:31

This is for everyone who knows what has happened and wants to chat about what will come next

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I think that a lot of the next one will be in Grimauld place.

Sirius' brother is the person who stole the Locket (idea pinched from a clever mate of mine)

Dumbledore ordered Sirius to 'do the deed' and Sirius is a triple agent

I still think Percy Weasly will turn out to be a 'good egg'

Another good idea stolen from someone else is that part of Vodermorts soul is held in Harry's scar!!!! Damn clever that I thought!!!

Spoiler for people who read from the bottom, so to speak!

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katierocket · 09/08/2005 17:14

I've just finished it too (this morning). Great book, loved it. Very sad about old Dumbledore. I'll trawl throught this later.

Katherine · 10/08/2005 11:59

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"Anybody got any ideas about the big mystery surrounding Lily Potter - what could be the big revelation that we are told is coming?? "

Lily was having a fling with Snape. Snape is actually Harry's father - hence the slytherin link!

No seriously - fab book. Loved it all. Feel really depressed at the end though. Agree that Dumbledore had to die, can't really beleive Snape did it though - like the idea of the unspoken curses or that D was already dead.

I don't think D will come back but think he will communicate through the portrait. I don't think he will come back as Fawkes but I do think Fawkes will be important has he has helped Harry before.

Agree that RAB is sirius' brother. Afterall we don't know when he took the Locket so could have been a long time ago before he died.

I find it hard to believe that H will manage to find all the Horcurxes in one book and then tackle LV. Totally agree with the idea that H might be one of the Horcruxes. Would explain a lot of the quotes and also the parseltongue and ability to read LV mind etc. Perhaps H is the slytherin HC and Ginny is the gryfinndor one!

I'd forgotten about the references to the War. Maybe there will be a big battle aka LOTR? I think it will all end back at Hogwarts though - wherever the bulk of the book is set. Most likely in Ds office. Maybe Herminone will end up as Head.

I really envy my kids. When they are old enough to read these they will just go get the next one but we have to wait god knows how long till we get it. So..... frustrating.

Katherine · 10/08/2005 13:08

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Is it possible that Dumbledore was an animagus - as a pheonix?

Katherine · 10/08/2005 13:08

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Is it possible that Dumbledore was an animagus - as a pheonix?

Lizita · 11/08/2005 20:14

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I am loving this thread! It's all so complicated isn't it! I am going to HAVE to read all the books again.

Been taking notes while reading this thread...

I believe Dumbledore is dead. I kept waiting for it all to be untrue but when I finished the book, I thought, no. I was so, so shocked (I didn't even know someone was going to die) so I think it's bloody good writing. Plus, as people have said here, it paves the way for Harry to be the real hero.

Although, I must say I have been wondering about the Neville Longbottom thing, there must be some reason why there are two possible heros. Harry being a horcrux therefore needing to die in order to destroy Voldemort - my mind went into knots when someone said "Harry can't do that [kill Voldemort] if he's dead himself, can he?" My initial thought was "EXACTLY!" Voldemort could have made Harry a horcrux, knowing that he was the one who had to kill Voldemort, in order to make it impossible to kill him.......does that make sense? If it does, it's unlikely I think that Harry is a horcrux, and anyway, is it right that Harry is the only person who can kill Voldemort?

I believe Snape is good. I'm not sure about Dumbledore/Snape conspiracy, I had been thinking Snape had made an unbreakable vow to Dumbledore to protect Harry.
Was v. interested when someone pointed out that it turned out he didn't know what Draco was meant to do - he pretended to Bellatrix etc that he did know, didn't he? Am wondering, if the person who has made the vow doesn't actually know what he's vowing, does the spell actually work?
Nevertheless, that doesn't matter because he (apparently) did obey the Unbreakable Vow.
I also think Draco will turn out good. Not sure about Percy Weasley, I have been expecting him to be evil but not sure now.

Lily/Snape - I like the idea that they had a fling, but suddenly wondered if it was the other way round, James stole her from Snape, hence Snape's hatred towards him, or towards them both. I had already been wondering if Harry was related to the Slytherins, at one point even directly to Voldemort but decided I too watch too much Star Wars (I am your father!) But there are a few references, aren't there, about how like James he looks, so quite possible James is part of the Slytherin line. Though I also like the Gryffindor vs Slytherin idea.

I guessed early on that Snape was the Half Blood Prince. Bit confused about the whole thing about the book being 50 years old, because why should that mean the Half Blood Prince wrote in it 50 years ago? Also the point that Harry would know Snape's writing is a good one too and I find it hard to believe that JKR would have slipped up on that one.

Fred Elliott as Slughorn, love it!

Katherine · 12/08/2005 08:40

Isn't it Snapes mother that is the half blood prince, hence Hermione going on about how it might be a woman? That would tie in more with the date being 50m yrs ago.

Can't decide about Dumbledore at all. Was convinced he was dead when I read the book but then looking at the website mentioned below its quite convincing that maybe he is not. I think though it would be better writing if he is, to release Harry to work alone, I'd do wonder though if he appears as some kind of guide, whether in the picture or in some other form and I do think that Faukes will continue to help Harry.

I think the idea that Harry is the Horcrux and would have to die very depressing for a childrens book though.

flamesparrow · 12/08/2005 08:50

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I was going with the theory that Snape had his mum's old book.... I had always assumed it was Snape with an old book from the beginning... I had so many old books for school, it seemed logical to me to ignore the dates in it.

Anyone else concerned that the text books haven't been updated in 50 years????

Aragon · 12/08/2005 08:50

Snape is a goodie - just feel that he is. Was very persuaded by his furious response to Harry calling him a coward "DON'T CALL ME A COWARD"!

He isn't a coward but is taking great personal risks for the Order.

Aragon · 12/08/2005 08:51

Also very interested that there's all this stuff about Lily Evans being a whizz at Potions.

jabberwocky · 12/08/2005 09:32

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Have just re-read the book and like the theory of Dumbldore being a phoenix animagus.

I wondered too about Snape being angry at being called a coward because he was actually being quite brave at being a double (triple?) agent for Dumbledore but knew that everyone would think otherwise now. When he kept shouting at Harry and deflecting the hexes I also wondered if he was trying to protect Harry from casting an unforgivable curse because that would ultimately be a bad thing for Harry to do (decrease his power of ability to love IYKWIM) It just seems too easy for Snape to wind up being the consumate villian that Harry always thought he was.

geranium · 12/08/2005 15:38

Lizita

Ithink JKR once told the actor who plays Percy Weasley that he redeems himself in the end.

geranium · 12/08/2005 15:39

sorry, should preview more. I mean of course JKR told the actor who plays PW in teh films that Percy in teh books would redeem himself.

munz · 12/08/2005 16:01

I want to knwo when harry/ginny will get back togehter and also ron/hermoine

recon it should be in book 7. - any ideas for that yet?

geranium · 12/08/2005 16:21

but Ron and Hermione basically go off into the sunset together at the end of Book 6 don't they? (while Harry stares broodingly into the future)

munz · 12/08/2005 16:43

well yes I supose so, the end of book 7 should be ron & hermione together, and harry beats LV and goes back to ginny.

jabberwocky · 13/08/2005 01:05

But doesn't it seem that she is setting things up for 4 more books?

munz · 14/08/2005 16:28

4 more I thought it was only 7 in total so 1 more?

fuzzywuzzy · 14/08/2005 16:37

Ron and Hermione are going with Harry, they said as much didn't they???????????

munz · 14/08/2005 16:42

yeah thats how I read it FW.

jabberwocky · 14/08/2005 18:38

But he has to find 4 horcruxes. That seems like a lot for one book.

munz · 15/08/2005 09:11

well that's what I was talking about last night to a friend we said the conclusion would be a bloody big book.

Oliviab · 22/08/2005 15:45

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I like the idea about Ginny and Harry both being horcruxes - did the semi-real Tom / the basilisk actually kill anyone in Book2? If so, it could have happened then? Although grownup LV wouldn't necessarily know whether he'd pulled it off if he didn't sense the book's destruction.

I think Percy is under the Imperius curse but someone will find a cure in time I'm sure.

Maybe Snape used to help Lily Evans with her potions because he loved her, maybe she too gained her reputaion thanks to the Half Blood Prince.

Definitely think Snape was bluffing to Bellatrix and Draco's mum about what he knew, plus he was deffo trying to protect HP from doing unforgiveable curses (as someone else said below.)

emmatmg · 22/08/2005 16:04

blimey, finished this on hoilday but after skimming through this thread I feel like I need to read it again because you've all noticed so much more that i did.

Actually I should probably read all of them again.

Reading a book, in a caravan with 3 young children is like the kypton factor.

SoupDragon · 22/08/2005 16:20

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Why is it so unlikely that Harry doesn't recognise Snapes handwriting? Mine certainly doesn't look anything like it did when I was 17.

nikkie · 23/08/2005 21:44

LOve Fred Elliot as Slughorn!

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