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Fail safe way to lose weight in FIVE WEEKS

195 replies

dinny · 23/06/2008 08:26

somone get me on straight and narrow (that inc wine 4 times a week) - totally lost focus!

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mumtofour · 23/06/2008 21:07

Hi all

Hope no-one minds but think I may join you motivational ladies in some weight loss. I went to weight watchers and got to my goal in Nov 2006. Over the last 18 months weight has crept back on and my motivation has got lost somewhere. I would love to find it again and am gonna go weigh in tomorrow night. Am very impressed with your set up Vaggy you sound like you have a great plan and the support of the coach should be a great boost for you.

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 21:13

Hi mumtofour, well done on reaching your goal, that weight has a habit of creeping upon you doesn't it !!

I presume you are going back to WW are you ?

I love the caramel chocolate bars, used to have one every eve with a small glass of wine and a Goodfellas Pizza on weigh in night if I had lost that week.

Still managed to lose 2 stone 10 but it is so easy to go back on.

I'm not particularly liking myself at the mo, I am weak and I allow food to be my crutch.

Had to hide the chocolate stash DH had bought me as DD was telling me to be good as I was starting my healthy eating again !! I dare not call it a diest, she is 8 and already picks up on how unhappy I am, we all eat healthily and thats that !!!

BecauseImWorthIt · 23/06/2008 21:18

OK - today has been like this:

breakfast - 2 hard boiled eggs, 2 cups of coffee
lunch - tin of tuna, mayonnaise, chopped green pepper, finely diced onion and chilli powder
client meeting - 1 cup of coffee
snack after work - hard boiled egg and piece of cheese, cup of coffee
dinner - green salad with vinaigrette, roasted peppers, green beans with onion and vinaigrette, hard boiled egg stuffed with mayo/curry powder/mango chutney, slice parma ham and slice salami, tomato, basil and mozzarella salad

I've drunk about 2 litres of water so far

mumtofour · 23/06/2008 21:23

Yes will go back to weight watchers as got on ok with it.
My big battle is getting myself motivated and thinking positive about it coz as soon as I fed up I eat and eat! Have cravings for chocolate and other stuff we all know we shouldn't have including alcohol!
I find myself very cross with myself for letting the weight creep back on as I really wanted to try and maintain my weight but with a hectic life and so many nice foods it is hard.
You did amazing to lose 2 stone 10, I lost 2 stone the last time.

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 21:24

Absolutley not a criticism in anyway just an observation.

Lots of eggs for one person in one day, they are reasonably high in fat (the yolk) and I think even slimming world say upto 10 a week, think WW is 1.5 points each if I remember rightly ?

Not alot of carbs either.

Are you following a plan, or just being good ?

Am loving the cheese tho

I would write down what I have eaten today but you would see I have shares in Cadburys and E&J.G Wines.

mumtofour · 23/06/2008 21:25

Sounds a lovely menu of food, well done.

Fanella · 23/06/2008 21:29

Hello! Can I join in?

I've been on a calorie controlled, five a day, drinking water and walking weight loss programme since the beginning of the year and lost 2 stone...

BUT I've been hovering around the same weight for a good few weeks now and can't seem to shift any more...

I'm on holiday in 7 weeks so I've set myself that as a goal to lose at least another stone.

Has anyone else lost quite a bit and then got 'stuck' like this?

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 21:32

mumtofour, you have had a particularly busy time just recently in your supporting role and that must have been really hard for you at times.

I suspect you just grabbed the nearest thing at times and it always the naughty stuff and not the apple

I love Pink Lady apples, they are not cheap but took that sweet craving away immediately.

BecauseImWorthIt · 23/06/2008 21:33

VS - I'm a low carber, hence the amount of fat. It's positively encouraged.

Also, the reason why the carbs are low. But the carbs come from veg and salad.

Also, should point out, NO WINE!

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 21:33

Fanella, can you afford to drop your calorific intake now you have lost 2 stone (well done btw, thats prob 2 or more dress sizes, it feels great doesn't it ?)

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 21:37

BecauseImWorthIt........Bloody hell gonna call you Coz from now on.

Low carb, do you have enough energy ? Or was it low and you have picked up as you have got used to the diet ?

No wine

Not good news, however when I get in the groove it does not bother me either, however going through a really stressful time at the moment but cannot afford to wait for it to be over, I'll be the size of a house if I continue making excuses !

How much have you lost Coz ?

Do we all need to fess up what we have eaten all day on this thread ? I think its a good idea, what does everybody else think.

Slurp slurp.......

Fanella · 23/06/2008 21:42

Yep, VS - I think that's what I'll have to do. I've been walking quite a lot more recently too so hopefully that will have some effect coupled with the reduced calories.

Oh it's hard work though - but it does feel great - clothes that used to be quite tight are now baggy. I just get really fed up of this stuck feeling.

mumtofour · 23/06/2008 21:44

Thanks Vaggy OJ is such an inspirational lady and I am so proud to be there for her. It is true how when your stressed or fed up an apple never has the same appeal as the naughty stuff.
Fanella I think sometimes your body just needs periods to adjust before it loses more. Your good eating habits are in the bank as such and they will show again in weight loss.

Fanella · 23/06/2008 22:08

thanks mumtofour - I'd never thought of it that way. I feel a bit more motivated than I have recently so hopefully it will start to pay off.

VaginaShmergina · 23/06/2008 22:14

Now I must keep saying to myself in my sleep, bran flakes with a little bit of muesli with skimmed milk for brekkie tomorrow, not three slices of toast with a truck load of butter and marmalade like this morning.

Fortunatley I have got used to skimmed milk and only have that in my tea now, anything else tastes too creamy, that is unless it is cream and its on a crumble

Come on girls we can do it !!!!!

dinny · 23/06/2008 22:33

hello all!

just been to my usual Monday yoga class where I was sooo sore and rubbish (back injury) - feel quite about it, actually, miss my usual boundless energy, hadn't realised how important exercise is to me!!

anyway, talking to my yoga friend and she says to low-carb, so I may try it!!! although am rubbish at willpower.....

so tomorrow I am going to try and eat

breakfast - eggs of some sort
lunch - tuna salad
dinner - Quorn something and green veg

Can you REALLY not drink wine on induction?

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VictorianSqualor · 24/06/2008 08:16

morning ladies.
To stop any confusion, can I be VS and vaginaschmergina be vaggy? It's what we do on the other thread we are on not to get mixed up!

I started off really good yesterday drinking water and had quavers for lunch (waiting for shopping day today so nothing in) then DP decided to bring home flowers and chocolates and chinese take-away with diet coke
So starting a fresh today.

VictorianSqualor · 24/06/2008 08:22

dinny, I did atkins before and lost loads of weight, but I drank in induction, I drank spirits though, a small vodka or brandy with diet coke. (It had to be a diet drink with no aspartame though IIRC).
It depends what wine you drink though, have a look here at the carbs in it, sweet for example has 6.8grams of carb whereas dry red is only 0.5grams so you could probably get away with that if you were not having carbs elsewhere, that way you could fit in a day or two a week with some wine, but too much alcohol stops the whole process that low carbs initiates.

BecauseImWorthIt · 24/06/2008 08:35

VS - I've been low carbing, more or less, for about 5 years now.

I started off with a weight at 10 stone 11, which was creeping up and up even though I wasn't doing anything any differently. At 5ft 2, it was way too much.

The lowest I reached was 9 stone 3, but then complacency hit and I thought I could eat more of what I wanted, with the inevitable result.

I find holidays especially difficult - and low carbing is not a forgiving way of eating. Because it's just that - a way of eating not a diet.

I've been struggling over the last year, probably, with the result that I'm now weighing in at 10 stone, as of this morning.

I have never followed a particular plan, although I had done a fair bit of reading about different plans, including Atkins and Charles Clarke and, more recently India Knight/Nerys Thomas - so I know a bit about the theory and what is/isn't appropriate.

From day one I can honestly say that I have never suffered the withdrawal symptoms or lack of energy that some seem to have had. I think it is a way of eating that suits me very well (when I behave!)

The best things about eating this way are:

  • being able to eat decent quantities of decent food (butter, olive oil, cheese, nuts)
  • no more having to calorie count
  • no longer being humgry - I don't get that horrible 11 am empty stomach 'have to eat something' feeling - in fact, I can easily go till 2 or even 3 pm without eating simply because I sometimes forget!
  • no longer being obsessed with food and what I'm going to have/will be allowed to have at my next meal

There are some downsides, which is why I struggle. Not eating bread, pasta, potatoes and rice means I often can't eat 'normally' - because our diets are so skewed towards refined carbohydrates. For example, on Friday DH and I went on a visit to a vineyard near us, (DH's 50th birthday present from his sister). As well as the visit (and wine tasting!) a buffet lunch was included. This comprised of:

sandwiches
pork pies
cocktail sausages
mini Scotch eggs
cornish pasties
salad

The only thing I could safely eat was the salad - but even that had a balsamic (and therefore sweet) dressing!

I travel a bit for work and may often be at client meetings over lunch - where invariably sandwiches will be served. Out and about, have a look at all the food that's available - sandwiches, fruit, crisps, pastries - nothing that is low carb.

So there's a lot of planning involved, and occasionally I do tell people that I can't eat wheat. It seems a trivial thing to tell people, as it's about my weight rather than for medical reasons, but the other thing I have found since I started low carbing is that my IBS (which I suffered from occasionally) has gone - and only comes back if I start to eat too many carbs. I rarely, if ever, suffer from thrush and my skin, which used to get very dry and itchy, is also better.

So on balance, it is a way of eating that I (mostly!) feel very happy with.

The reason why I haven't got my weight down is, I think, down to several things:

  • I drink too much wine
  • I actually consume too many carbs overall by 'cheating' - that little bit of naan bread with my curry, the odd crisps here and there - all adds up
  • I haven't got that much weight to lose and probably ought to avoid things like cheese and nuts as they are very calorific. Even though you don't count calories on this way of eating, there is a need for some self-control!

So a very long explanation of me and why I do what I do. I do occasionally think "oh bugger it" and consider going on a low cal diet, so that I can eat pasta/potatoes/bread again - but then I remember the feelings of hunger and deprivation as well as obsession with food!

BecauseImWorthIt · 24/06/2008 08:37

Dinny - if you drink wine, you won't be doing induction. Sorry! The point of induction is to get your body used to the lack of carbs and to break the addiction (apparently). Also, as you're only allowed 20g of carbs during this period (which isn't much) it should come from green veg and salad, so that you get the appropriate nutrition.

Not all low carb plans have this induction period, so why not consider a more 'forgiving' plan, like Charles Clark?

Or just do what I do and fly solo?! Trouble is, for me at least, I need to break the habit of drinking the wine, so 2 weeks off might not be a bad thing!!!!

Fanella · 24/06/2008 08:56

Morning all,

Well - I was quite good yesterday - stepped on the scales this morning and I've lost a pound ...ok so in reality it was probably just a few ounces, but it made me feel good I can tell you. I feel like my motivation is back.

Now my mantra - I must not weigh myself again until Friday!

VS - at flowers and chocolates and takeaway, how lovely. Good luck with your fresh start today though.

Dinny - about your back injury, good luck with the low carbs if you decide to do it. Having read BIWI's post about it I honestly don't think I could do it. It would take a much stronger effort of will than I've got to give up bread, pasta and rice!

Vaggy - hope you managed the bran flakes and muesli ok this morning!

VictorianSqualor · 24/06/2008 09:05

Get rid of the scales!
It's probably one of the easiest downfalls, to be able to weigh yourself at any time.

If you have no scales but go to a weekly weigh-in (be it a club or a set in superdrugs) then you are more likely to get an accurate weight guide.

If you weigh yourself at 6am, 12noon,6pm and midnight you will weigh different each time so you must weigh at the same time and the same circumstances every week for an accurate guide.

I was hungry so Ive just had a slice ot toast and marmite and 2pints of water, like I said, a pint every time I feel hungry to check if it's thirst.
I'm not hungry anymore.

My normal snack time is around 10:30-11am ish so I'm going to just have a slice of toast in the morning when I do the DC's breakfast to ward off hunger and have my 'breakfast' yoghurt with raisins and seeds, at my normal snack time.

Then at lunch (12:30-1pm) I shall not have my full lunch but take some of it out with me when I do the school run. My school run takes two hours, half-way through it at about quarter to three I take DS1 to the park and normally buy a snack from the shop, so if I take part of my lunch to have then I won't be tempted by the chocolate Then my normal dinner and no snacks after 7pm.

So far I'm doing ok, but I'm only 2hours into it

Fanella · 24/06/2008 09:19

When I lost my initial lot of weight I was really good about weighing - once a week at the same time, before breakfast, after the loo. But recently I've been so disheartened with it all and I've been getting on the scales every day, sometimes more than once . I realise now it's counterproductive. So I might do as you suggest VS - there's a machine at our local tesco so I'll pick a day and time and go there instead!

toadette · 24/06/2008 09:39

Hi, day one for me here. Have weighed myself (10st 1lb and 5' 4") and will have to hide the scales now to stop me jumping on and off them everyday (BAD habit!). Would like to get to 9st 4 or 5lbs so about 10lbs to lose altogether.

I tend to lose and gain these 10lbs fairly regularly so have tried WW and Slimming World before, both worked well the first time around but I get complacent after a while and the lb's slowly creep back on again. The worst offenders are wine (the dieter's nemesis) and starchy foods(my other dieting nemesis). So after reading through some of the posts I think I might try to low carb for a while to see how I get on. I bought India and Nerys' book out of curiosity a while ago so know the basic rules. Tried it for a few days once before but gave up because I was struggling at breakfast time, just couldn't face bacon and eggs every morning. So will have to get some alternative brekkies planned.

VaginaShmergina · 24/06/2008 09:51

Morning girls, had some more bad news refernce our house sale yesterday adn I am so deflated today I am trying to look at the meeting tonight as my life buoy thingy ma jiggy.

Have been shopping and got loads of fruit, just had a pint of water (some days I have a cup of tea in the morning and then no more liquid til the vino in the evening )

I am almost certain I could not do the low carb thing but never say never and it may be something I experiment with if my weight loss slows down.

Right now off to the bran flakes with muesli and will catch up with you all again.

VS scales are the work of the devil. If you can just get weighed in at whatever class you are doing !

Will give you all my measurements and weight later so you can watch me shrink right before your very eyes.......here's hoping !

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