DIET FAILED AGAIN? Thread three. Join us in a friendly group who are very supportive without any judgement.

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Thought I'd save you the hassle @poorpaws.

Well done for those who have lost and good luck to those struggling.

My focus at the moment is just to be wiser for food selection and to keep active. The slow moving scales can wait although I did check this morning and showing I'm nearly back to 14 and a half stone.

@thenewaveragebear1983 you speak so much sense and I am going to follow your advice.

I've done it before and I can do it again. I will start today and hope to progress positively through the week.

Good start, I've got a chicken breast out of the freezer so chicken salad for dinner 😀 breakfast was porridge, lunch will be soup.

Thank you.

Good words
I do agree doing what I know works... surprisingly works ... quickly.
So two good days, even the Easter egg was withing calories...today 73.7..
So to get back to 72 kgs doesn't sound too difficult.
That's my first goal

97.9 kilos today. I feel glad it’s not 98 to be honest. I had quite salty food yesterday too, so that may be bumping it up.I have been really unwell for 2 weeks with a horrible virus, still not well enough to go swimming. But I have had porridge today which is a good start. And it’s stirfry for tea, so as long as I don’t go crazy at lunch, food today sounds ok. I’m going to do a bit of gardening now because it’s not raining.

Afternoon all. I've been off thread and off plan for about two months now, including 3 weeks of holiday, and have gained a good 7lbs. Miserable. But onwards and upwards – or rather downwards, hopefully!

Hi all back to it today.
I've had protein yogurts and fruit for breakfast.
Chicken wrap, boiled egg and salad for dinner with a protein yogurt.
I was going to have scrambrlled egg for tea but I just don't fancy it at all - can sometimes feel weird about eggs! I'm wondering if having some fat free bacon in a thin bagel with a salad would be ok?
But feel good about today so far!

Ditto @poorpaws, so much clear thinking @thenewaveragebear1983.
'...focussing on filling your menu with protein, veg, fresh healthy food - our bodies reward us for that very quickly.' I need to keep reminding myself that this is how to 'treat' my body, not with chocolate or cake, but with the stuff that makes it happy and healthy. And in return it will reward me by making me not say ooof when I get up from the sofa!
I'm attempting to eat no chocolate until Friday. A small goal for some, a depresingly large one for me, but something that will hopefully reset my thinking and my weight.

@PinkArt I'll try to join you with the no chocolate, it's a big ask for me but I need a chocolate break. I've still got two Easter eggs left but I'll save them for when I'm thin, yeah right. 😂

@poorpaws. I bought some yellow stickered scones earlier as a 'healthier' option to help with this week's project. 240 fucking calories each! So glad I checked cause they are going straight in the freezer for when things are back on track. 240 cals in a bloody scone!!!
It's the obscene amount of discounted Easter chocolate I bought that's prompted this week as much as anything. It should last months and I need to make sure it actually does. We can totally do this.

@PinkArt I had bought for me or bought myself a total of 18 Easter eggs, none of which were the teeny tiny ones. I have two left 🙈
There is a back story about me and eggs but I don't want to bore people to death.

As for scones did I mention I made 17 small ones in my new air fryer oven? I wanted to make the first bake fairly cheap in case it didn't work out so I chose scones. I've got to make some more in the next few days because I want to get them right and they needed tweaking a bit. I haven't had any today and I will probably have to freeze some as I intended to buy some cherries to make cherry scones because I'm not keen on those and DP is, but I forgot to buy them. I always make the Mary Berry sultana scones but have no idea how many calories they are. I used three large eggs so they were very rich and quite nice.

I've tried really hard today, so I'm hoping I can keep it up at least until next Monday. Day 1 and no chocolate.

Easter chocolate is a killer. Ours is all gone now but DH has started making Jamie Oliver chocolate brownies again so I've eaten a bunch of those this weekend.

But! The weight management course I was on rang up today. I'd been doing weekly sessions nov to jan and was supposed to switch to monthly from feb when I went back to work and then I heard nothing from the end of jan until today where a new consultant rang to check in. She seemed surprised that I'd heard nothing for 3 months but at least it's a little bit of an incentive to get back on track. Another human asking where I'm up to. Can't hurt I guess.

I’ve still got a big gold bunny hiding in my wardrobe.! But I had 16 fewer eggs than @poorpaws , and it would not bore me at all to hear the egg origin story😆. I’ve had a better day today, apart from a jam butty for lunch and an iced spiced bun but I forgive myself.

I'm finding a bit of exercise on a night time gives me a decent sleep.

Having a few days of no breakfast for as long as possible when on shift and eating a couple of tubs of plain rice, then fish / chicken and veg oonan evening seems to be keeping me on course.

I'm sticking with my plan for now, lots of veggies and more exercise. The glorious sunny day really helps as I want to go out. I might be an odd one out as I can easily ignore Chocolate, my weakness is bread and cheese. Managing to stick with healthier lunches atm.

Ok @Zebracat my Easter egg saga, a true story. You have to read this through a child's eyes.

When I was little my parents had a shop (we lived on premises) and it was the only shop that sold Easter eggs for miles (and it opened every day of the year inc Easter Sunday, Xmas day).

The Easter egg deliveries started very early and there were thousands (child eyes) but a great many. My parents always said whatever was left on Easter Sunday evening, I could have.

I knew the enormous purple one (they don't seem to make them that big any more) would be purchased by Mr S, the estate agent, for his wife, the vicar would buy ... etc.

I watched as my favourites were sold and altered my expectations accordingly. The biggest and best seemed to go first but there were plenty left. I kept checking where they were stored and hoped x egg wouldn't sell, but it always did.

On Easter Sunday morning there were always quite a few left and I was very excited as I knew they couldn't sell that many in one day. The shop was always full and one by one people bought "last minute" eggs.

By Easter Sunday evening there were none left, none for me and it happened every year. The expectation, the excitement, great anticipation and nothing!

As an adult Easter has always been my favourite time of year, more than Christmas and I love thin chocolate. Every year since earning my own money I have gone all out and bought every single easter egg I fancied no matter what the cost, making it up to that heartbroken little girl.

Hence 18 easter eggs this year, some purchased on the first day in the shops and more bought every week.

Sorry for those not at all interested but I felt I somehow had to explain my love and greed at easter.

DP didn't buy me an egg the first year we were together and I cried, (her didn't understand but knew the story), he bought me three this year so alls good 😁

Ooh I forgot a bit of the story:

One year I was in a show at Easter, it was a small event but I felt like a star, singing, dancing, acting. At the end there were presentations to each child (name shouted out and a lot of clapping) and the trestle table below the stage was full of gifts purchased by parents. As it was Easter lots of the gifts were eggs.

One by one the child was called to the front and given their "prize". I waited expectantly eyeing up the Easter eggs.

I was the only child on the very full stage who didn't get a present. Heartbreaking!

@poorpaws. I feel like I should send you my bunny now! Surely they could have kept 1 back for you?
Our generation really got suckered. We grew up being told children should be seen and not heard and treated like indentured servants. Then we had kids and had to let them express themselves and sacrifice all our own needs on the altar of their desires.I’ve still got 2 at home, adults but still somehow so much more important than us.. once they leave I am going to have such a self indulgent old age. Think Barbara Cartland but with less pink and more dogs. Even so 18 eggs is a lot, it’s one for every year of your childhood. Maybe that debts now been paid?

Oh god @poorpaws that's properly traumatic for a child! All that promise for no reward. Overbuying now in honour of child you makes so much sense.

I have similar clothes issues for kid me, I think. I was a very tall kid and no matter what my parents told people about only buying clothes presents a good 2 or 3 years older than I was, they always bought for my age. They never fitted so they'd just get given to my equally tall sister. who was already fitting my actual age clothes. I also had feet that were too narrow for most shoes and grew out of kids trousers by about the age of 9 or 10, so didn't always have an amazing choice.

I think grown up me sometimes buys and then struggles to get rid of a frankly ridiculous amount of clothes to make it up to kid me.

Heartbreaking indeed @poorpaws I think you're entitled to some indulgence to get over that trauma.

So my operation date came through and it’s July 13th. I’m still the weight I reached in December. I desperately need to lose another 2 stone or 12 kilos, to get into the overweight category. It feels like I will be ok if I can lose the weight, and the consultant strongly advised this. It probably also stops me thinking about the, gulp mechanics. I am really squeamish.
Today I’ve had porridge and 2 biscuits for lunch (I know, right). It’s gnocchi for tea which I hate, so that should be ok. Can I lose 2 stone in just over 2 months? And should I aim for that and get somewhere or have a more modest target?

@Zebracat I've said this many times on here but you can only do your best. Yes by all means keep the operation date in mind and try your very best for that but it's difficult, we are only human and we make mistakes.

I will do my best to support you and try to buddy you with the weight loss which I also need but very occasionally you will slip up and you have to forgive yourself for this. We'll give it a good go.

@Zebracat I think you are right the debt has been paid and I've thought that in the past but not too long after new year the Easter eggs are in the shops and I am the first in the queue, I will try harder.

@PinkArt the clothes thing with you sounds really tough. I have no idea why people buy clothes presents when children are so many sizes and children get so disappointed too. Opening a lovely present only to find out it's the wrong fit, so sad. Perhaps if you hadn't had a sister your parents might have exchanged for a bigger size, who knows.

My parents had me later in life so all grandparents had already passed and because both of my parents were workaholics their siblings didn't visit and they didn't make any friends apart from their customers. Because of this there were no presents for me from relatives or friends.

I have just one daughter who would probably say I've made a lot of mistakes bringing her up but she did and still does do very well at Easter 😁

@poorpaws Thank you. I’ve bitten the head off my bunny, just to get it out of the way!

It’s Tuesday which means it’s my crazy work day and I usually end up bingeing on rubbish however today I have not, although I have gone over my calories, but I haven’t binged uncontrollably. I had 2 chocolate digestives after my dinner, and actually the main excess of calories was a half avocado and a grating of Parmesan on my dinner.

I am taking that as wholly positive.

I have Easter egg issues too @poorpaws. my parents are very odd, cold, functional people, and we never ever got an Easter egg, we would either get a standard bar of chocolate or a few pounds to go to a shop the day after Easter and “get more for our money” (but we very rarely ever actually did relying as we were on our parents to actually facilitate this shopping trip the next day 🤷‍♀️) Funnily enough, mother retells this story as how my sister and I “loved” to do this, we didn’t, we’d have loved a beautiful foil wrapped egg and we never ever got one. I always buy myself an egg and I always buy my dc a couple as there is something magical about that beautiful foil covered chocolate and who cares that it’s more expensive than a bar of dairy milk. I think a lot of my food issues come from the fact my parents sucked all the joy out of food and they still do.

@thenewaveragebear1983 I feel your pain, it's so sad what our parents can do and children have no control. I didn't have Christmas presents either once Santa was exposed far too young. My mum took me to the sales after Christmas to get "more for your money" and it's just not the same.

I'm doing ok with food and exercise. I fed my sweet tooth with a honey and oats granola bar instead of chocolate as I guess it's healthier. I'm going to try to cut out chocolate for as long as I am able to but I need something sweet in the evenings. The granola bars are not low in calories but I'm hoping they'll ween me of chocolate for a while and they are quite substantial so feel like a real treat instead of a slimming bar that makes me want another four when I've eaten it.

@poorpaws i’m guessing it’s just a generational thing, and probably a legacy from their own childhoods and upbringing, but this mentality of getting as much as you can for as little money as possible isn’t how i choose to live really. I’d rather have an occasional delicious meal out than a frequent McDonalds. I try not to let it bother me but it really does and my parents, now in their 70’s are getting worse as they get older. The ‘get as much as you can for as little as possible’ message was always ingrained into us as children and it’s a hard habit to break. I feel sad for them, mother particularly, as she is now 70 and still hasn’t broken free of that mentality, and yes is still on a diet, and no, is not this mythical ‘thin’ that she has spent her life chasing only to be hindered by cheap foods in large quantities (I’m thinking like 10p bread and cakes in the yellow sticker aisles, or 2 for 1s particularly, they have a love for these). The rationale that it’s a bargain because it’s reduced negates the fact that they don’t want or need it, and the effort it takes to undo it is still high.

(I could have a whole thread about the legacies of growing up with miserable parents, alas. I will add as a disclaimer, we had a happy childhood really, we were safe and clothed and cared for. We just had skint, post war baby boomer parents with probably some undiagnosed mental health issues)