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Need to lose 3stone in 3 months.

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Ineedaplan · 16/02/2020 21:24

Any suggestions as to best format to achieve this?

I'm limited as to amount of exercise I can do, so it looks like dietary approach to begin with, then hope to add in some exercise when I can.

Just wondering if anyone has got advice and/or done similar themselves and can share.

All input gratefully received.Flowers

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ppeatfruit · 26/02/2020 12:55

agteacht I have never counted a calorie in my life and have STILL lost 3 stone fairly quickly . It's not absolutely necessary at all Grin I talk about them sometimes because so any people do but as I said it's ain't necessary !!!

FATEdestiny · 26/02/2020 13:21

I've understood correctly that's 800 cals per day? How do you manage, I'm struggling on 1200!

Two things helped me. Firstly what you eat, so making every calorie count. I'd rather have a huge, massive plateful of vegetables that is a large volume of food, than a much smaller amount of carbs.

The lunch I've just eaten for example: a green and yellow pepper, sliced. Three full celery sticks. Half a can of chickpeas whizzed up with garlic. 7 vegetable portions according to the NHS poster for veg serving sizes. It's physicly a lot of food on your plate so very filling, but very few calories relatively speaking.

The second thing is psychological. Realising that you genuinely don't need more food/calories. Especially so if you have excess fat cells in your body. That fat is an energy source so in order to burn it you need to run out of energy from your food. If you have lots and lots of fat in your body, like I did, it takes some psychological jiggery pokery to make yourself accept that you can consume really low calories and be absolutely fine - because you've got lots of energy stored as fat.

Obviously the advice is different if your BMI is the lower end of normal so your fat stores are lower. But if you're overweight or obese, you don't physically need the calories. You just psychologically think you do.

I ate maximum 800 calories 6 days a week (and about 1200-1500 on a Sunday) long term with no I'll effects. Probably 6 months or so, and this was while burning around 3000+ cal per day. Then another 6 months eating around 1000-1200 as my body fat cells depleted.

Re: Calorie Counting

I've never routinely calorie counted. It's far too faffy given that the evening meals I cook are always from scratch, always feed 6 people and I often cook double batches to freeze half. It's hard to work out a single portion of homemade bolognese sauce with any accuracy, for example.

However, it is important, I think, to understand the food you eat on a nutrient level. I was very overweight (BMI 43) and so recognised I needed to properly educate myself on food composition. The best way to do that us with a tracker app (I use the fitbit app).

But I only every calorie count for about 2 weeks at a time. This allows you to much more accurately estimate things like:

  • how many calories in this?
  • what weight is one portion?
  • what does one portion look like on the plate?
  • how many carbs in this?
  • what's got more protein in it for the same calories, this or this?

Healthy eating, I think, comes down to properly understanding these sorts of things all of the time, every day.

You don't have to accurately calorie count in order to do that. But you do need a good level of nutritional understanding. I found short term calorie counting helpful in that education . But personally, I can't be arsed all the time. But I know that yesterday, for example, I ate around 800-1000 calories with very few carbs. I haven't calorie counted that, I just feel better able to estimate because of previous food logging.

Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 22:45

Can someone tell me very sternly to go to bed?

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 22:45

Without toast!

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 22:48

Ive had fish , and a few peas. Two fat chips.

And a glass of wine.

2 litres of water.

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 22:56

And a lot of stress!! Hmm

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 23:03

Drumming fingers....
Eying up the gin......
Save me!!

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 23:14

And im now having a gin a tonic.
But more tonic than gin.
I find the feverfew cucumber version makes me feel it more gin like.....Gin

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Ineedaplan · 26/02/2020 23:18

And my eldest bro is now talking about malt whisky!
He can go away.

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ppeatfruit · 27/02/2020 08:31

Iineed It sounds like you're a nighttype. I'm a morning person (usually up at 6ish !!!)

BTW Do try to cut right down on the alchohol if you want quick results. DH is on Lent now (none at all!!!) He looks better and IS better almost immediately !!!! REALLLY !!!!!!

BTW just because your plan went a bit awry. Just get on with it the next day. Or the next, DON'T GIVE UP you CAN do it!!!!!! Grin Did you check out Paul Mackenna? He's great for encouragement.

Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 08:31

No toast though!! Grin

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ppeatfruit · 27/02/2020 08:32

Fate Congrats on the loss, it sounds as if you've got it sorted.

Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 09:11

@ppeatfruit
Due to time difference with certain work aspects, I am up late.
Not really by choice!

And I've given up a lot for Lent....just not wine, but have given up beer!🍺

The gin last night was very unusual for me. Hmm

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Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 09:14

I've not weighed myself yet - but I am less bloated. Smile

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Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 09:24

I've given up breadsticks.
May sound random, but I was getting addicted.

Usual stuff- chocolate, sweets, cake, biscuits . But I never lose weight during Lent, which has always puzzled me.

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Needmoresleep · 27/02/2020 10:49

Fate certainly does!

OP, and sounding sharper than I would like, you have both an unrealistic goal, and seem to think there is going to be a magic bullet.

I am losing weight fast at the moment, though don't plan to weight myself until am comfortably wearing my "thin" jeans. (Before Christmas I was struggling to get into my fat jeans, and am now on the point of needing a belt for my medium ones.) Yes I have yo-yo'ed in the past!

This time I think it is different.

  1. My mother, who was living with Alzheimer's for over a decade, passed away and DC are at University and are happy. Life is simpler, and I have time to focus on me. I am a stress eater.
  1. I know a lot about why I eat. Paul McKenna was really useful for that. I no longer snack in front of the telly. I have broken my addiction to sugar and processed carbs. 5.2 taught me about hunger and the fact that cravings are not hunger, and that being hungry is not the end of the world. I liked the Newcastle man's argument that losing weight fact can be more successful as quick results are encouraging. I am sufficiently educated about my diet now to be able to maintain (bar a new sustained bout of stress) and so just need to lose the three stone.
  1. I am simply moving more and eating less. No absolute targets, but aiming for around 800 cals a day, of good food, and significant exercise five days a week. I am not cooking special recipes as I don't really want to think about food. If I am eating out, I look for lighter options for starters and mains, and do OMAD. No pud, but I ask for a spoon and have a mouthful of DH's. Its the taste not the quantity that seem to help. If not I skip breakfast, have a posh muesli with fruit for lunch and something with a lot of veg for dinner. I have been taking psyllium husks once a day (the bottle recommends three times a day!) to provide fibre, and which really fills me up and causes me to drink more water, and a few supplements.

In terms of exercise, I was both unfit and hate gyms. I go if I have to, but checking Google and walking rather than taking the car/bus or cycling, builds exercise into your day. DH and I have been taking quite long walks at the weekend. I am kind though and accept that I need a couple of recovery days, though am already more able to cope.

I also make choices depending on what I feel like, and my tastes seem to have changed. Nandos no longer appeals. Instead I seem to want fish with veg, or goats cheese with small amounts of proper bakery bread. I am buying a lot less food, but nice stuff, using the shop as a walking destination. As FATE says, I don't need lots of energy giving food as I am carrying my own energy store.

It can be a bit uneven as I can be buzzing with energy one minute then very flat the next. But the weight is shifting and when it is gone I will increase what I eat to what I need. The very weird thing is that I am not feeling hungry, as if my body is as keen to see the extra pounds (stones) go.

So education first. Really try Paul McKenna. And 5.2 is a revelation for many.

Needmoresleep · 27/02/2020 11:33

Another thing I learned was to eat more slowly. DH inhales food and I was keeping pace with him. Now I eat slower and feel hungry sooner.

Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 12:07

Thanks for all your input.
Im still in learning stages, so happy to hear from you all.

My husband inhales, so Im used to just passing my unfinished plate to him.

Hence the addiction to breadsticks in the evening!

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Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 21:42

Ricotta and pesto tortellini with tomato and basil sauce.

Half portion.
Glass of wine.

Thats it.

Have opportunity of early night, so taking it as need to be up and alert early tomorrow.

I did warn you this week was going to crap!

But I'm finding my feet!

Thanks for asking @Handsoffisback Flowers

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Ineedaplan · 27/02/2020 21:44

Dinner was at 7pm.
Nothing before or after.
Not good.Just happened.

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ivykaty44 · 27/02/2020 21:49

I’ve often wondered what would happen if you did a few different things

Tried VLCD for a week, then Michael Nisely 800 diet for a week, then slimming world for a couple of weeks

Then started on the weights and weight watchers

You wouldn’t get bored would you 😂

ivykaty44 · 27/02/2020 21:51

Oh and huel or joylent for a week, no sugar so would it should get rid of the cravings for sweet stuff

ppeatfruit · 28/02/2020 08:48

ineeda ref breadsticks, you will get addicted to those , it's the wheat, so many of the foods we get addicted to are wheat based, e.g' being unable to stop eating biscuits till the packet is empty' is a common complaint and excuse among OW (and non OW )) people.

There is a good book by an American medic called Wheat Belly by William Davis who finds so many of his patients are cured ( of an amazingly mixed number of illnesses) when they give it up.

I have given it up (but I do still eat whole rye and or spelt bread in moderation) ) which doesn't leave me exhausted like the wheat and sugar combo I used to like.

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