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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 08:11

Lavender - your weight fluctuates naturally on a daily basis, which is what you have to get your head round if you're a daily weigher.

That said, list what you've been eating/drinking for me over the last few days and see if there's anything I can spot.

Willie - something's happened to the spreadsheet - it's no longer in alphabetical order! I don't want to fiddle with it in case I break it!

butterflies what's the carb count per 100g?

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JessicaWakefield · 16/10/2012 08:17

I stayed the same this morning which I'm very relieved about after Saturday night's Weetabix-gate. So total loss during bootcamp of 2.5 pounds which I'm very pleased with. It's odd because even though that's not a big difference on the scales people keep telling me how much slimmer I look and I feel much thinner, significantly more so than if I'd lost 2.5 pounds with low calorie dieting - I guess it's because with this woe you're actually loosing fat rather than water and muscle which I think can happen with low cal? Not sure, but whatever the explanation I'm not complaining! Have a good day everyone and well done in the losses posted this morning.

Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 · 16/10/2012 08:22

Wine - Smile yes thanks have been pretty regular so far, I think it's all the water.
Singing - I am definitely a daily weigher Wink, I find it keeps me on the straight and narrow as there are so many temptations around. Unfortunately though it can have such a positive or negative effect on my day I'm not always sure it's a good idea.
Think I will just steer clear of anything salty today and hope its just water retention, def not TOM tho as just had that.

halfthesize · 16/10/2012 08:22

Morning weighed myself and stsSad hoping its to do with the stupidly long totm I'm having!!

BIWI that peanut butter combo sounds lovelySmile

captainmummy · 16/10/2012 08:33

Bad day yesterday - exDH's birthday (a biggie) so went to pub with dc for dinner. I had a (tough) chicken breast with spinach and mushroom sauce (suspect flour in the sauce) with mash (didn't eat) and peas(which I did). Also nicked 2 chips! Dc then had puddings (wont describe them out of deference to others on here!) but had a small spoon of each. Half bottle white wine, then a vodka and tonic.

No breakfast today, Will be good, Will be good.

WillieWaggledagger · 16/10/2012 08:55

all fixed biwi!

have lost 1lb overnight which is annoying as i weighed in with a 0.5lb gain yesterday! never mind, will hopefully carry over to next monday

Doshusallie · 16/10/2012 09:22

Morning all. Shoes have arrived and are so uncomfortable they are going back! Shame.

Wine gless that sounds like a nightmare morning! Hope your day gets better!

DTWLFM and a berocca so far today plus a pint of water. No breakfast as didn't want yoghurt (still on no/low dairy experiment) and there was NOTHING else.

Sitting waiting for my osteopath appt, and will then hit lidl.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 09:55

I'm waiting at home for not one but two British Gas engineers. One to fix the boiler (keeps cutting off, so only intermittent hot water and heating) and one for the washing machine.

Appointments are the inevitable 8 - 1.

Anyone care to place their bets as to when they actually show?!

What makes it worse is that I'm sitting here in my sweaty gym stuff, because I know that the minute I get in the shower, one of them will be ringing the front door bell!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 10:01

Oh, and here are some calculations for the peanut butter/yoghurt thing:

2 level teaspoons peanut butter (mine is Whole Earth smooth, 9.9g carbs per 100g)
4 level teaspoons yoghurt (full fat Total, 3.8g carbs per 100g)

If you just mix this together, this will be 3.5g carbs. It makes a small but very rich treaty snack.

You may like to add vanilla - I used vanilla bean extract. This contains sugar (I've run out of the Waitrose one which is sugar-free). There is no nutritional info on the pack, so I have assumed the worst, and that it's the equivalent of adding sugar. You only need 1/4 teaspoon, though, which will add another 1g of carbs.

I may experiment with freezing this. I was also wondering if, rolled into balls, you could make some lovely after dinner 'chocolates' - either rolling them in cocoa or coating in melted dark chocolate.

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halfthesize · 16/10/2012 10:01

12.55 BIWIGrin

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 10:12

Yip. Think you're probably right!

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halfthesize · 16/10/2012 10:18
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EwanHoozami · 16/10/2012 10:19

DH has presented me with a gammon knuckle

No nutritional info, but I imagine it might fall under the 'processed' banner.

I've put it in the slow cooker. It smells slightly revolting.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 10:20

Is it smoked or unsmoked? If the former, slightly more processed, but I don't think it's much of a problem.

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EwanHoozami · 16/10/2012 10:39

I've sniffed it suspiciously but no idea yet.

I'm slightly more concerned that he asked last night if rabbit was low-carb and how did I feel about skinning some? Confused

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 16/10/2012 11:04

ewan I admire his enthusiasm, but I'd be a bit Confused too!!! I know biwi said avoid processed, but that would be taking the real thing a bit far for me Grin

cathyandclaire · 16/10/2012 11:14

Feeling a bit bleurrrggh today, upset tummy and nauseous. The lurgy must have finally reached the frozen north.

But it does mean I'm another 1.5lb down, target weight Grin...every cloud and all that!

I know it's probably fluid but it's still good to see the scales.

What do you eat on this WOE to settle your tummy, I presume dry toast is out?!?

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 11:15

Definitely, cathy!

Could you manage a bit of scrambled egg? Or some plain yoghurt with a live culture - could help settle your tummy?

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vnmum · 16/10/2012 11:17

Ewan Rabbit stew in the slow cooker?Smile. It is the season for rabbit though, they have them in the local butchers.

Gym today for the first time in 2 weeks. I could tell too. I'm not sure how I'm going to manage to get there regularly once I start work but I know I want to keep toning.

we are going to try the braised cabbage tonight with roast cauli and broccoli and salmon with extra carrots for the DC.

Nice to see people still losing and jessica you definately do look different on this woe than if you lost the same amount doing low cal for the reason you mentioned Smile

cathyandclaire · 16/10/2012 11:18

Oh and Ewan, skinning and cooking a rabbit, that is serious hard-core Paleo stuff Shock...you could make yourself a lovely hat out of the fur too [ wink]

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 11:18

Grin @ the idea of skinning your own rabbit! No thanks.

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ForSaletotheHighestBidder · 16/10/2012 11:23

cathyandclaire, the lurgy has also crossed the Irish channel, kids and I have had a 24 hour tummy bug, haven't eaten since Sunday evening. Surrounded by puked-upon sheets, towels etc DH has suggested I should look after as it wouldn't do for him to catch the lurgy.. Angry
Very tempted to have a baked potato, craving carbs.. Shock
Yogurt might do the trick, or have some spinach soup in the freezer. Hmm.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 16/10/2012 11:32

cathyandclaire target weight? well done !!!!!

I've emailed the Graze box team to ask for low carb, high protein snacks on the go, I will let you know if I get a response!!

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 11:35

cathy sorry - I didn't spot that you'd reached your target! Brilliant Thanks

(But even more reason not to give into the toast - don't want to undo all that good work, do you?!)

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butterfliesinmytummy · 16/10/2012 11:56

My total must be the same as yours, it's 3.8g carbs per 100g but the pot is 200g so nearly 8 carbs per pot.... Will have to get used to half a pot I think....