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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

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AuntieMaggie · 21/10/2012 12:12

Bugger :( Am up on the scales this morning... am hoping if i drink loads of water it will come back off

Have had yogurt for breakfast and will have roast chicken for lunch/dinner... any ideas on how to liven it up?

BigBroomstickBIWI · 21/10/2012 12:41

Drizzle with olive oil, season with sea salt and black pepper. If you have any, fresh thyme on top. Otherwise, dried herbs of any description. Cut up a couple of lemons and shove them in the carcass, having first squeezed the juice over the chicken.

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toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 21/10/2012 13:29

Have found my new favourite side dish last night. For D, I did chicken breasts stuffed with Philly and wrapped in Parma ham, roasted in the oven with some courgette. Then also did leeks and pancetta fried in butter, then double cream sloshed in at the end and stirred through. Omg. So good. DH loved them too and he is really not a veggie kinda guy.

Did extra potatoes for him and carrots for him and Ds. But Ds didn't eat his, so I scoffed them. Oops. A small portion but feel bad. Still, haven't succumbed to any fruit, nuts, booze, carby snacks at all so am trying to keep it in perspective. Esp since I was struggling yesterday with the effects of insomnia.

My "weekend" jeans are definitely looser round the waist but I still have a bit of a bloated tummy and feel like I could do with a big poo, sorry tmi! Blush am drinking lots of water, and herby teas. One real coffee a day usually black, but since I have some cream left over from last nights cooking, I am away to treat myself to one with cream!

Hope everyone has a good day (the sun is shining here) and positive results tomorrow.

Ps am i allowed to say none of you feel like strangers now? Ok enough of that nonsense. Manly punch on shoulder all round. Blush again.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 21/10/2012 13:31

Sorry maybe that wasn't clear, it was carrots I scoffed, not potatoes.

WillieWaggledagger · 21/10/2012 13:49

Auntiemaggie I like to mix softened butter with thyme, parsley and salt and smear underneath the skin (you have to sort of push your hand under the skin to pull it away from the flesh all the way down to the legs, revolting but worth it), and put half lemon in the cavity too

Doshusallie · 21/10/2012 14:49

Pmsl at toomuch's manly punch.

Am stood in a wood while dss build a dam and get covered in mud. And it's raining. Ho hum.

B- Greek yoghurt (leaving off dairy made no diff to me at all so back on it)

L- celery with pate and ham, boiled egg.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 21/10/2012 15:20

You're the best bunch of total strangers I know.
x

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Brasssection · 21/10/2012 15:42

I luff you all too. Have bought new scales and will try to cut down on dairy. I just can't do this without some. As I've given up wine, I can't give up coffee and only like it with milk. Am going to be super strict about recording all carbs. I did weigh last time in the middle of period and not in the morning and with appalling constipation so that can't have helped. Great news about calories because if I have say, smoked salmon and even a little double cream, that's over 1000 calories on its own!

Upwards and onwards. It has to work. THANK YOU ALL.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 21/10/2012 16:02

dosh , was checking spreadsheet and I can't see you! Have you been, gasp, archived ???? Surely not, you are a (non carb based) staple on these threads!!

BigBroomstickBIWI · 21/10/2012 16:05

Brasssection - are you on any kind of medication? That can also get in the way.

Otherwise, I'd just say 'relax' and enjoy what you're eating. You're eating good quality food, not drinking and you're exercising. Not much wrong with that, is there?!

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Brasssection · 21/10/2012 16:09

Am on the mini pill. Are psyllium husks ok carb wise? I need to get moving Blush.

And can 2 cups of Brussels sprouts really have 11 carbs (MFP reading)?

Doshusallie · 21/10/2012 16:12

Toomuch, I really don't bother adding my weight to the spreadsheet tbh....it's the same every week, by a pound or two, so there didn't seem much point!!

Doshusallie · 21/10/2012 16:15

Snacks - pork scratchings, baby bel and 4 Brazils. Hungry today, and lunch was a bit small.....dh cooking roast pork....drool....

BigBroomstickBIWI · 21/10/2012 16:16

I have no idea about cups, but Brussels sprouts are 3.5g carbs per 100g.

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Lavendersbluedillydilly1969 · 21/10/2012 16:24

Still nearly 2lbs up on late Monday so not looking forward to tomorrow's weigh in. Don't know why it's gone back up but trying not to just go "fuck it ill have some toast then".

Had a fry up for breakfast today and dinner will be roast pork, mushrooms and cauliflower.
Had friends over yesterday and didn't have wine, they all think I'm pregnant now and I kept getting lots of knowing looks as they filled their glasses. Weirdly though I didn't really want wine and that's definitely a first.

Viperidae · 21/10/2012 16:35

I think I'm turning a corner! I'm suddenly feeling less hungry, am not craving sweet stuff as much and think my trousers might even be a bit less tight (although hard to tell as almost everything in large sizes tends to be made stretchy).

Willie I was planning to try something similar with chicken today, I have some tomatoes, mini-mozarella and pesto from Waitrose (checked and the carbs are low) and was planning on stuffing that under the skin. Will let you all know how it goes.

I made a low carb pizza last night but it was not one of my finest creations. I made the base from cream cheese, egg and parmesan but it was too, too cheesy for me.

Today I skipped breakfast, did what I could of the Bob Harper Ripped Core workout (about half of it - nearly killed me!), had sausage, bacon, 2 eggs and mushrooms for lunch and will be having chilli (sans beans) with cauliflower rice and guacamole for tea.

captainmummy · 21/10/2012 16:37

Not too badthis weekend - big birthday bash on fri night, ate a few smoked salmon roll canapes and ignored the sweet little hamburgers, and the chocolate brownie bites - way too much wine tho. Saturday had another birthday pub dinner, had steak and salad, onion rings (which i ate) and chips which i didn't (well only 4). Dses had a 'sharing' bowl of ice cream, chocolate brownie fudge sundae -i had a spoonful of the cream, probably squirty cream and quite poss sweetened but better than digging into the icecream and fudge sauce!

Smoked salmon - is it very high in cals? Brass - you made me Shock at 1000 cals with a bit of cream! Oh bTW if you are using MFP to track carbs, you hgave to take off the fibre - select the fibre column as well as the fat and carbs column, and it's easy to subtract from the carbs. It's american, that's how they do it, apparently.

Viperidae · 21/10/2012 16:45

Brass I had the mini-pill many years ago and went from a size 12 to a 16 in 3 months, came off it and went back down with very little effort. It can have big effects on weight and fluid in some people.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 21/10/2012 16:46

Brass - 100g smoked salmon is only 117 calories, so I'm not quite sure where you are getting your figure from - unless you're eating it with a gallon of double cream!

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MrsHerculePoirot · 21/10/2012 16:55

Oooh yes, you are a lovely bunch of strangers!!!

Took DD (who is nearly 3) to a party today of a little girl she goes to the childminder with (who was 5). Turned up at venue only to be told the mum had cancelled her party (I think not recently either). My heart broke at the look on DDs face Sad I know it isn't important in the grand scheme of things, but she kept asking why there wasn't party, and she really wanted to play with xxx etc... and I didn't really know what to say to her. There was a RSVP date on the invite so I am guessing not enough said they were going and they cancelled it, have no idea though why when we did RSVP she didn't let us know it wasn't going ahead. Anyway DD needed new shoes anyway so we took her out for lunch, got her feet measure and she got some shoes that have lights on the bottom (I said I would never get them, but she loved them so much and I am a pushover!!!)!

Not my best week overall, one more week until half term so stressful at work and also AF due this week which never helps but am hoping to STS and not have gone back up tomorrow!

captainmummy · 21/10/2012 18:51

MrsHP - I had the same when my ds1 was about 5; he was invited to play on a certain day, we turned up to find that the mum and her dc were going shoe-shopping Angry and we had to leave again! So sad for ds1 who didn't understand and was inconsolable; I was furious and haven't talked to the mum since. (ds1 was 20 yesterday and it still rankles! Grin)

vnmum · 21/10/2012 18:53

I have discovered kale crisps today. Yum. The first batch i left in a tad too long but the second batch I sprinkled with fish sauce, sprayed in oil and kept a close eye on them. They are yummy. Like seaweed from the chinese. Even DS likes them and wants some in his lunch box tomorrow Smile

MrsHP Thats abit rude of the mum really not to let you know.

Doshusallie · 21/10/2012 18:57

Oh mrs HP, bless ure dd and Angry for her at them cancelling party without letting you know!

Roast pork with buttery cabbage and swede. Have had a lot of pig today.....

Had to have a tablespoon of Greek yoghurt after, and am now having a decaf black coffee.

halfthesize · 21/10/2012 19:59

Eve All, very busy weekend here so just caught up on the thread.

winegless I have 3 DC ranging from 3 - 20 and all of them have been early risers, between 6am & 7am, its completely normalSmile my DH finds it hard as he is not a morning person!!

I have been good this weekend bar a couple bottle of winesBlush

WineGless · 21/10/2012 20:20

link again for those who haven't seen it. It's the mn Xmas appeal you can nominate and/or offer to donate
Gives me a warm fuzzy glow to pick a present for deserving MNer and their DC

I luffs my bunch of total strangers - couldn't do it without you all