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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 12:01

Can you buy the 500g pots, and then just weigh out 100/150g each day? Probably better value as well.

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cathyandclaire · 16/10/2012 12:06

Thanks all Grin...
I had yoghurt (Total, full fat) for the first time since I was a child, I thought I hated it 'cos it was too sour...but it was delicious Shock
Maybe this WOE has changed my tastes and maybe I should be a little more open minded!
I'm so excited, it's yoghurt and a few berries for brekkie for me tomorrow.

butterfliesinmytummy · 16/10/2012 12:07

No I can't get big pots here, will just have to eat half a pot at a time and remember not to trough a whole one....

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 12:18

It's hard not to be tempted, because it's so luscious!

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Jins · 16/10/2012 13:04

I feel blessed that I hate yogurt Grin

I don't do dairy anyway, haven't had milk for years and anything too creamy will see me vomit. Yogurt adds a slightly sour, powdery feeling into the mix of general dairy unpleasantness.

The oft quoted breakfast of berries and yogurt makes me feel quite sick. Thinking about the number of carbs in in makes me glad I don't like it.

TheHumancatapult · 16/10/2012 13:13

Any ideas for breakfast am planning after half term to kick dairy into touch . Already ditched gluten

tartiflette · 16/10/2012 13:58

Willie just like you I had only .5 loss yesterday for weigh in but have lost another 1lb - maybe even 1.5 depending how I stand Wink overnight. grrr.

Drank buckets of water yesterday, I can't believe the difference it makes!

Breakfast - two boiled eggs with mayo
Lunch - Tuna mayonnaise with cherry tomatoes
Dinner - think chicken stuffed with boursin wrapped in streaky bacon, with broc and cauli. Trying to reign in the coffees today but hard when it's FREEEEEZING.

Another one feeling the mayo love here - it's the main perk of this woe for me. Bloomin love the stuff Smile

NewStartSameStory · 16/10/2012 14:38

Having a crap day here food wise. Hindered by waking up at the time I needed to leave.
B: Major cheating* :( twix and bottle of coke
L: Grabbed on run whilst out. Cumberland sausage and a alpro yoghurt. About as good as i was going to get grabbing something to eat on the run.

Exercise 4hrs of moving about the pace of fast walking with some bendy twisty stuff thrown in.

Not drunk any water yet either. Starving hungry, absolutely shattered and feeling meh. Need an early night tonight.

WillieWaggledagger · 16/10/2012 15:13

oh yes re mayo, and i love the feeling of indulgence of a proper blob of full fat mayo

Poppy1234 · 16/10/2012 15:15

Choosing to ignore the carb content of total yoghurt, I eat at least one of the 170g pots each morning....

BIWI I'm wondering if your yoghurt delight would work with almond butter, I'm so excited about trying this out.

Think I have mastered the mini fritatta, made cheese (super strong cheddar and parmesan) and bacon ones this morning and they were so tasty. I think stronger flavours really are the key.

B: Greek yoghurt and mini fritatta
L: Curried cauliflower and coconut soup and mini fritatta
D: Slow cooked bolognese with spaghetti squash (I'm hoping the squash is as good as I'm expecting it to be, will report back).

SingingTunelessly · 16/10/2012 15:25

Poppy, I've tried the spaghetti squash and it was okish. Haven't rushed to have it again as usually have leeks now with Bolognese. Be interested to see what you think. My Bolognese has been in the oven for three hours so far with another four to go. Smile

Cathy, really well done on reaching target. Thanks

Jins (my fellow fruit loather) I think you are I were separated at birth. I can't stand yoghurt either. Grin. DH loves it for breakfast with rhubarb. Urgh.

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 15:28

Shock @ NewStart! Why did you have a Twix and a Coke near to hand? Really, really, really - this isn't going to help you get your head back into sensible eating, is it?

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NewStartSameStory · 16/10/2012 15:34

It was all that was available in the vending machines at location of training. Consumed 1 hr into 4hr session. Like i said it was crap. IF I have woken up with my alarm the plan was for scrambled eggs before leaving and yoghurt snack. plus salad to take with me for lunch. My lack of sleep is catching up with me. :(

I am having a problem with thin skin on my hands since starting this and am getting very prone to chill blanes. Is it likely to be due to the diet or is lack of sleep/something else likely to be the cause?

Jins · 16/10/2012 15:35

I think we may have been Singing Grin

I quite like rhubarb though. Natural low carber me!

Doshusallie · 16/10/2012 15:54

No breakfast
Lunch was leftover chicken and curried veg from last night.
Have just made a cottage pie with celeriac mash for tea, with leeks.

DH popped back from work and said "Oooh what's cooking? Ooh we are having shepherds pie withthethingthatlookslikepotatothatisn'tpotatobutweareallsupposedtopretenditisbecauseitactuallytastesok topping! yay!"

I did have to laugh. Grin

NewStartSameStory · 16/10/2012 16:04

Grin Doshu

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 16:43

NewStart - I've never heard of thin skin/chilblains being linked to this way of eating - but I will see what I can find out.

You need to make sure you've got food in your fridge/cupboards that you can grab when you're in a rush - stuff like hard boiled eggs, or packs of ham, or chunks of cheese.

I'm also very worried about the stress you seem to be putting yourself under with this regime you're involved in. Do you have to do this much training? Do you have to do such long hours? Stress causes inflammation which can impede weight loss. Is there any way you can take a break and get yourself a bit more sorted/organised?

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NotAgainAndAgain · 16/10/2012 16:47

Doshu thanks for braised cabbage, I did not want to repeat my fist attempt as it was not that lovely.
BIWI if a little square of 80% choc creeps in my evening snack - am i officially off the charts? Somehow I suspect that will give zero ketosis Sad

BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 16:48

Chilblains look like they're more likely to be caused by a poor diet, as well as cold and changes in temperature

Given your self-confessed problems with eating/food, it's not going to be eating in a low carb way that would be causing these, as you have already admitted that you would be eating a better diet if you can sustain a low carb diet!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 16:50

And again, poor nutrition can contribute to thin skin

... especially sugar and caffeine.

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 16/10/2012 16:52

Well, NotAgain - there's one way to find out ... Grin

Seriously, though, the thing about this WOE is that we all have to find out what words and what doesn't work for us, on an individual basis.

It also, obviously, depends what else you've eaten in a day, and how many carbs you've consumed overall.

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AuntieMaggie · 16/10/2012 17:15

So far today:

Bfast: None - had doc appt and missed it
Snack: lump of cheese and a couple of pork scratchings (not keen on the mr porky ones, are there any nicer ones out there?)
Lunch: leftover pork stroganoff with brocolli
this is my new favourite recipe - I use pork loin chops instead and serve it with veg but its so quick and easy. Using aldi ingredients its about 5g carbs if you divide it by 4 portions.

Dinner: some meat concoction...

halfthesize · 16/10/2012 18:52

Eve all

So far today

Brunch was egg and bacon
Dinner was beef stew with veg and low carb stock cubes, was scrummySmile
And of course loads of water, so so thirsty today!

WillieWaggledagger · 16/10/2012 19:24

Right have ordered slow cooker

halfthesize · 16/10/2012 19:33

Ooh willie my slow cooker is the most used thing in my kitchen through the winter monthsGrin

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